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[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 266 points 1 year ago (1 child) Dear America: Most countries don't do this shit. At all. It's weird and off putting permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 99 points 1 year ago* (2 children) Does anyone else also fly bombers and fighter jets over stadiums at the start of a game? Do you take 2-5 minutes to honor some guys in the military during half time? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Taleya@aussie.zone 85 points 1 year ago (1 child) NK does i believe permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago (2 children) When you connect the dots of modern history, you realize America was most of the way to fascist dictatorship the entire time. Many of us have been waiting for it to drop the facade for decades. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 year ago Fascism is just capitalist imperialism turned against your own citizens. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Taleya@aussie.zone 1 point 1 year ago YuppppP permalink fedilink source parent [–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 36 points 1 year ago* (4 children) to be fair, that one (afaik) is a legitimate training exercise. it’s useful to train pilots to be at an exact place, in an exact formation, at an exact speed, at an exact time… and if you can get marketing and morale out of it, welllll why not permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 year ago (3 children) Also, jets are just plain old cool. Everyone likes a mini-airshow. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) I mean yes, I love airshows, but there's something about a mass celebration of these machines of death where a crowd gathered for a completely unrelated purpose gets to see the last thing an afghan child at a wedding sees gives ick in a way that normal airshows, even with all the military recruitment and propaganda don't. It doesn't even apply to all flyovers, sometimes it's like F-14s or Chinooks or WWII era planes where the message isn't so dark. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] spooky2092@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 1 year ago (1 child) where a crowd gathered for a completely unrelated purpose gets to see the last thing an afghan child at a wedding sees I know this probably makes it worse, but the Afghan child most likely wouldn't even have a chance to see the plane (or more likely, predator drone) that fired the missile that killed them. It's one of the many reasons these children are fucking terrified of clear skies and sunny days. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 year ago Goodbye Blue Sky permalink fedilink source parent [–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 4 points 1 year ago yyyyyyyes but it’s also expensive and thoroughly weird when compared to the rest of the world… so whilst it does serve a legitimate purpose, it’s worth noting those points too permalink fedilink source parent [–] real_squids@sopuli.xyz 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) Piling on the list of negatives - they use leaded fuel, which is bad for you. I still like planes though permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] spacesatan@leminal.space 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) No they don't. Jets use jet fuel not avgas. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] real_squids@sopuli.xyz 1 point 1 year ago You're right, my bad. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kurroth@aussie.zone 13 points 1 year ago (1 child) Lol, as opposed the the drills and formations that NK/Russia etc do? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 17 points 1 year ago (1 child) not at all - they’re all exactly the same… i’m just noting that there are reasons to do them beyond only propaganda and nationalism permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kurroth@aussie.zone 13 points 1 year ago It's fucking weird and creepy permalink fedilink source parent [–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 child) It's also dope AF. Frankly, I'd rather have those planes boosting morale here than dropping bombs somewhere else. I see it as a win-win. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago The whole purpose of those flybys is to glamorize and advertise the same planes they use to drop bombs. In many other countries, their military acrobatics teams don't even use true military jets. New Zealand's Black Falcons use propeller-based trainers. Japan's Blue Impulse team uses Kawasaki T-4 based trainers. Britain's Red Arrows and Finland's Midnight Hawks use BAE Hawk trainers. Australia's Roulettes use turboprop trainers. Canada's snowbirds use Canadair Tutor trainers. permalink fedilink source parent [–] angrystego@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) You can train the pilots in other time and area. The combination with an unrelated game makes it propaganda. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 0 points 1 year ago you can, but as i said at the end of the comment: you have to do it anyway… you either entirely waste the fuel, maintenance, and pilot time, or you use it for something in a couple of comments people have said they think it’s “plain old cool” and “a mini air show” propaganda? perhaps but people also seem to enjoy it… better than entirely wasting it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 99 points 1 year ago* (2 children) Does anyone else also fly bombers and fighter jets over stadiums at the start of a game? Do you take 2-5 minutes to honor some guys in the military during half time? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Taleya@aussie.zone 85 points 1 year ago (1 child) NK does i believe permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago (2 children) When you connect the dots of modern history, you realize America was most of the way to fascist dictatorship the entire time. Many of us have been waiting for it to drop the facade for decades. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 year ago Fascism is just capitalist imperialism turned against your own citizens. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Taleya@aussie.zone 1 point 1 year ago YuppppP permalink fedilink source parent [–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 36 points 1 year ago* (4 children) to be fair, that one (afaik) is a legitimate training exercise. it’s useful to train pilots to be at an exact place, in an exact formation, at an exact speed, at an exact time… and if you can get marketing and morale out of it, welllll why not permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 year ago (3 children) Also, jets are just plain old cool. Everyone likes a mini-airshow. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) I mean yes, I love airshows, but there's something about a mass celebration of these machines of death where a crowd gathered for a completely unrelated purpose gets to see the last thing an afghan child at a wedding sees gives ick in a way that normal airshows, even with all the military recruitment and propaganda don't. It doesn't even apply to all flyovers, sometimes it's like F-14s or Chinooks or WWII era planes where the message isn't so dark. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] spooky2092@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 1 year ago (1 child) where a crowd gathered for a completely unrelated purpose gets to see the last thing an afghan child at a wedding sees I know this probably makes it worse, but the Afghan child most likely wouldn't even have a chance to see the plane (or more likely, predator drone) that fired the missile that killed them. It's one of the many reasons these children are fucking terrified of clear skies and sunny days. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 year ago Goodbye Blue Sky permalink fedilink source parent [–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 4 points 1 year ago yyyyyyyes but it’s also expensive and thoroughly weird when compared to the rest of the world… so whilst it does serve a legitimate purpose, it’s worth noting those points too permalink fedilink source parent [–] real_squids@sopuli.xyz 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) Piling on the list of negatives - they use leaded fuel, which is bad for you. I still like planes though permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] spacesatan@leminal.space 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) No they don't. Jets use jet fuel not avgas. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] real_squids@sopuli.xyz 1 point 1 year ago You're right, my bad. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kurroth@aussie.zone 13 points 1 year ago (1 child) Lol, as opposed the the drills and formations that NK/Russia etc do? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 17 points 1 year ago (1 child) not at all - they’re all exactly the same… i’m just noting that there are reasons to do them beyond only propaganda and nationalism permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kurroth@aussie.zone 13 points 1 year ago It's fucking weird and creepy permalink fedilink source parent [–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 child) It's also dope AF. Frankly, I'd rather have those planes boosting morale here than dropping bombs somewhere else. I see it as a win-win. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago The whole purpose of those flybys is to glamorize and advertise the same planes they use to drop bombs. In many other countries, their military acrobatics teams don't even use true military jets. New Zealand's Black Falcons use propeller-based trainers. Japan's Blue Impulse team uses Kawasaki T-4 based trainers. Britain's Red Arrows and Finland's Midnight Hawks use BAE Hawk trainers. Australia's Roulettes use turboprop trainers. Canada's snowbirds use Canadair Tutor trainers. permalink fedilink source parent [–] angrystego@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) You can train the pilots in other time and area. The combination with an unrelated game makes it propaganda. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 0 points 1 year ago you can, but as i said at the end of the comment: you have to do it anyway… you either entirely waste the fuel, maintenance, and pilot time, or you use it for something in a couple of comments people have said they think it’s “plain old cool” and “a mini air show” propaganda? perhaps but people also seem to enjoy it… better than entirely wasting it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 85 points 1 year ago (1 child) NK does i believe permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago (2 children) When you connect the dots of modern history, you realize America was most of the way to fascist dictatorship the entire time. Many of us have been waiting for it to drop the facade for decades. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 year ago Fascism is just capitalist imperialism turned against your own citizens. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Taleya@aussie.zone 1 point 1 year ago YuppppP permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago (2 children) When you connect the dots of modern history, you realize America was most of the way to fascist dictatorship the entire time. Many of us have been waiting for it to drop the facade for decades. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 year ago Fascism is just capitalist imperialism turned against your own citizens. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Taleya@aussie.zone 1 point 1 year ago YuppppP permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 year ago Fascism is just capitalist imperialism turned against your own citizens. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 36 points 1 year ago* (4 children) to be fair, that one (afaik) is a legitimate training exercise. it’s useful to train pilots to be at an exact place, in an exact formation, at an exact speed, at an exact time… and if you can get marketing and morale out of it, welllll why not permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 year ago (3 children) Also, jets are just plain old cool. Everyone likes a mini-airshow. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) I mean yes, I love airshows, but there's something about a mass celebration of these machines of death where a crowd gathered for a completely unrelated purpose gets to see the last thing an afghan child at a wedding sees gives ick in a way that normal airshows, even with all the military recruitment and propaganda don't. It doesn't even apply to all flyovers, sometimes it's like F-14s or Chinooks or WWII era planes where the message isn't so dark. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] spooky2092@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 1 year ago (1 child) where a crowd gathered for a completely unrelated purpose gets to see the last thing an afghan child at a wedding sees I know this probably makes it worse, but the Afghan child most likely wouldn't even have a chance to see the plane (or more likely, predator drone) that fired the missile that killed them. It's one of the many reasons these children are fucking terrified of clear skies and sunny days. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 year ago Goodbye Blue Sky permalink fedilink source parent [–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 4 points 1 year ago yyyyyyyes but it’s also expensive and thoroughly weird when compared to the rest of the world… so whilst it does serve a legitimate purpose, it’s worth noting those points too permalink fedilink source parent [–] real_squids@sopuli.xyz 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) Piling on the list of negatives - they use leaded fuel, which is bad for you. I still like planes though permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] spacesatan@leminal.space 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) No they don't. Jets use jet fuel not avgas. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] real_squids@sopuli.xyz 1 point 1 year ago You're right, my bad. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kurroth@aussie.zone 13 points 1 year ago (1 child) Lol, as opposed the the drills and formations that NK/Russia etc do? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 17 points 1 year ago (1 child) not at all - they’re all exactly the same… i’m just noting that there are reasons to do them beyond only propaganda and nationalism permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kurroth@aussie.zone 13 points 1 year ago It's fucking weird and creepy permalink fedilink source parent [–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 child) It's also dope AF. Frankly, I'd rather have those planes boosting morale here than dropping bombs somewhere else. I see it as a win-win. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago The whole purpose of those flybys is to glamorize and advertise the same planes they use to drop bombs. In many other countries, their military acrobatics teams don't even use true military jets. New Zealand's Black Falcons use propeller-based trainers. Japan's Blue Impulse team uses Kawasaki T-4 based trainers. Britain's Red Arrows and Finland's Midnight Hawks use BAE Hawk trainers. Australia's Roulettes use turboprop trainers. Canada's snowbirds use Canadair Tutor trainers. permalink fedilink source parent [–] angrystego@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) You can train the pilots in other time and area. The combination with an unrelated game makes it propaganda. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 0 points 1 year ago you can, but as i said at the end of the comment: you have to do it anyway… you either entirely waste the fuel, maintenance, and pilot time, or you use it for something in a couple of comments people have said they think it’s “plain old cool” and “a mini air show” propaganda? perhaps but people also seem to enjoy it… better than entirely wasting it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 year ago (3 children) Also, jets are just plain old cool. Everyone likes a mini-airshow. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) I mean yes, I love airshows, but there's something about a mass celebration of these machines of death where a crowd gathered for a completely unrelated purpose gets to see the last thing an afghan child at a wedding sees gives ick in a way that normal airshows, even with all the military recruitment and propaganda don't. It doesn't even apply to all flyovers, sometimes it's like F-14s or Chinooks or WWII era planes where the message isn't so dark. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] spooky2092@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 1 year ago (1 child) where a crowd gathered for a completely unrelated purpose gets to see the last thing an afghan child at a wedding sees I know this probably makes it worse, but the Afghan child most likely wouldn't even have a chance to see the plane (or more likely, predator drone) that fired the missile that killed them. It's one of the many reasons these children are fucking terrified of clear skies and sunny days. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 year ago Goodbye Blue Sky permalink fedilink source parent [–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 4 points 1 year ago yyyyyyyes but it’s also expensive and thoroughly weird when compared to the rest of the world… so whilst it does serve a legitimate purpose, it’s worth noting those points too permalink fedilink source parent [–] real_squids@sopuli.xyz 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) Piling on the list of negatives - they use leaded fuel, which is bad for you. I still like planes though permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] spacesatan@leminal.space 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) No they don't. Jets use jet fuel not avgas. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] real_squids@sopuli.xyz 1 point 1 year ago You're right, my bad. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) I mean yes, I love airshows, but there's something about a mass celebration of these machines of death where a crowd gathered for a completely unrelated purpose gets to see the last thing an afghan child at a wedding sees gives ick in a way that normal airshows, even with all the military recruitment and propaganda don't. It doesn't even apply to all flyovers, sometimes it's like F-14s or Chinooks or WWII era planes where the message isn't so dark. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] spooky2092@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 1 year ago (1 child) where a crowd gathered for a completely unrelated purpose gets to see the last thing an afghan child at a wedding sees I know this probably makes it worse, but the Afghan child most likely wouldn't even have a chance to see the plane (or more likely, predator drone) that fired the missile that killed them. It's one of the many reasons these children are fucking terrified of clear skies and sunny days. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 year ago Goodbye Blue Sky permalink fedilink source parent
[–] spooky2092@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 1 year ago (1 child) where a crowd gathered for a completely unrelated purpose gets to see the last thing an afghan child at a wedding sees I know this probably makes it worse, but the Afghan child most likely wouldn't even have a chance to see the plane (or more likely, predator drone) that fired the missile that killed them. It's one of the many reasons these children are fucking terrified of clear skies and sunny days. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 year ago Goodbye Blue Sky permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 4 points 1 year ago yyyyyyyes but it’s also expensive and thoroughly weird when compared to the rest of the world… so whilst it does serve a legitimate purpose, it’s worth noting those points too permalink fedilink source parent
[–] real_squids@sopuli.xyz 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) Piling on the list of negatives - they use leaded fuel, which is bad for you. I still like planes though permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] spacesatan@leminal.space 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) No they don't. Jets use jet fuel not avgas. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] real_squids@sopuli.xyz 1 point 1 year ago You're right, my bad. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] spacesatan@leminal.space 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) No they don't. Jets use jet fuel not avgas. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] real_squids@sopuli.xyz 1 point 1 year ago You're right, my bad. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kurroth@aussie.zone 13 points 1 year ago (1 child) Lol, as opposed the the drills and formations that NK/Russia etc do? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 17 points 1 year ago (1 child) not at all - they’re all exactly the same… i’m just noting that there are reasons to do them beyond only propaganda and nationalism permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kurroth@aussie.zone 13 points 1 year ago It's fucking weird and creepy permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 17 points 1 year ago (1 child) not at all - they’re all exactly the same… i’m just noting that there are reasons to do them beyond only propaganda and nationalism permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kurroth@aussie.zone 13 points 1 year ago It's fucking weird and creepy permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kurroth@aussie.zone 13 points 1 year ago It's fucking weird and creepy permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 child) It's also dope AF. Frankly, I'd rather have those planes boosting morale here than dropping bombs somewhere else. I see it as a win-win. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago The whole purpose of those flybys is to glamorize and advertise the same planes they use to drop bombs. In many other countries, their military acrobatics teams don't even use true military jets. New Zealand's Black Falcons use propeller-based trainers. Japan's Blue Impulse team uses Kawasaki T-4 based trainers. Britain's Red Arrows and Finland's Midnight Hawks use BAE Hawk trainers. Australia's Roulettes use turboprop trainers. Canada's snowbirds use Canadair Tutor trainers. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago The whole purpose of those flybys is to glamorize and advertise the same planes they use to drop bombs. In many other countries, their military acrobatics teams don't even use true military jets. New Zealand's Black Falcons use propeller-based trainers. Japan's Blue Impulse team uses Kawasaki T-4 based trainers. Britain's Red Arrows and Finland's Midnight Hawks use BAE Hawk trainers. Australia's Roulettes use turboprop trainers. Canada's snowbirds use Canadair Tutor trainers. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] angrystego@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) You can train the pilots in other time and area. The combination with an unrelated game makes it propaganda. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 0 points 1 year ago you can, but as i said at the end of the comment: you have to do it anyway… you either entirely waste the fuel, maintenance, and pilot time, or you use it for something in a couple of comments people have said they think it’s “plain old cool” and “a mini air show” propaganda? perhaps but people also seem to enjoy it… better than entirely wasting it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 0 points 1 year ago you can, but as i said at the end of the comment: you have to do it anyway… you either entirely waste the fuel, maintenance, and pilot time, or you use it for something in a couple of comments people have said they think it’s “plain old cool” and “a mini air show” propaganda? perhaps but people also seem to enjoy it… better than entirely wasting it permalink fedilink source parent