▲ 863 ▼ with all the stupid shit happening around me (sh.itjust.works) submitted 1 year ago by RelativeArea1@sh.itjust.works to c/memes@lemmy.world 204 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 1 year ago (3 children) Better hurry and get it before they make it practically or literally impossible for everyone except the most privileged.. permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Alloi@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 child) or they force you to serve in the military first to earn a passport. kind of like earning your citizenship in starship troopers. too old to serve?.....didnt ask.... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children) The way they talk about how military service should be required for basic privileges is terrifying as a disabled person. No I didn't join the military to pay for my education, I was never going to be allowed in even if I wanted to permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) Some of the better arguments abstract it out to civil service requirements and not just military. I understand the urge to make people 'prove' their willingness to work for the betterment of the country before you let them vote, but I don't think mandatory conscription would actually help. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) Required civil service would be a very interesting program. Especially if they used it to build out important infrastructure like national parks that might otherwise be neglected. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 year ago I'm remembering one discussion in particular where he used the Civilian Conservation Corps and other work-relief programs during the Great Depression as evidence that it's perfectly possible for the government to just invent jobs to be done, and especially now that we're in the digital age, there is zero reason to keep a 'conscription to vote' scheme as military only. permalink fedilink source parent [–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago People in the military are less likely to disobey corrupt orders as long as they come from the correct chain of command. Power comes from a politically consolidated military. The larger the military the greater the reigns of power become. That'd be one incentive for the people in power to force citizens into the military. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (1 child) Trump's Golden Passport, only five millions, for a limited time only! Lets you go visa free to beautiful Puerto Rico, Guam, and soon to Canada and Greenland. Other destinations pending. Order yours now! Conditions may apply. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Denixen@feddit.nu 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) Don't forget the Gaza Rivera. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sporkler@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) and depending on where you fall on the color chart, potentially sunny Guantanamo Bay. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Denixen@feddit.nu 1 point 1 year ago I don't think you'll need a passport to go there though 😬 if anything they'll burn the one you have... permalink fedilink source parent [–] sanimalp@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago I mean, they basically already have.. It cost $165/person for a passport that can go anywhere but Canada and Mexico. Over $600 for a family before you can even go anywhere. For probably 90% of families, that sort of disposable income is a dream when most people can't afford a $500 emergency expense. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Alloi@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 child) or they force you to serve in the military first to earn a passport. kind of like earning your citizenship in starship troopers. too old to serve?.....didnt ask.... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children) The way they talk about how military service should be required for basic privileges is terrifying as a disabled person. No I didn't join the military to pay for my education, I was never going to be allowed in even if I wanted to permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) Some of the better arguments abstract it out to civil service requirements and not just military. I understand the urge to make people 'prove' their willingness to work for the betterment of the country before you let them vote, but I don't think mandatory conscription would actually help. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) Required civil service would be a very interesting program. Especially if they used it to build out important infrastructure like national parks that might otherwise be neglected. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 year ago I'm remembering one discussion in particular where he used the Civilian Conservation Corps and other work-relief programs during the Great Depression as evidence that it's perfectly possible for the government to just invent jobs to be done, and especially now that we're in the digital age, there is zero reason to keep a 'conscription to vote' scheme as military only. permalink fedilink source parent [–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago People in the military are less likely to disobey corrupt orders as long as they come from the correct chain of command. Power comes from a politically consolidated military. The larger the military the greater the reigns of power become. That'd be one incentive for the people in power to force citizens into the military. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children) The way they talk about how military service should be required for basic privileges is terrifying as a disabled person. No I didn't join the military to pay for my education, I was never going to be allowed in even if I wanted to permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) Some of the better arguments abstract it out to civil service requirements and not just military. I understand the urge to make people 'prove' their willingness to work for the betterment of the country before you let them vote, but I don't think mandatory conscription would actually help. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) Required civil service would be a very interesting program. Especially if they used it to build out important infrastructure like national parks that might otherwise be neglected. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 year ago I'm remembering one discussion in particular where he used the Civilian Conservation Corps and other work-relief programs during the Great Depression as evidence that it's perfectly possible for the government to just invent jobs to be done, and especially now that we're in the digital age, there is zero reason to keep a 'conscription to vote' scheme as military only. permalink fedilink source parent [–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago People in the military are less likely to disobey corrupt orders as long as they come from the correct chain of command. Power comes from a politically consolidated military. The larger the military the greater the reigns of power become. That'd be one incentive for the people in power to force citizens into the military. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) Some of the better arguments abstract it out to civil service requirements and not just military. I understand the urge to make people 'prove' their willingness to work for the betterment of the country before you let them vote, but I don't think mandatory conscription would actually help. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) Required civil service would be a very interesting program. Especially if they used it to build out important infrastructure like national parks that might otherwise be neglected. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 year ago I'm remembering one discussion in particular where he used the Civilian Conservation Corps and other work-relief programs during the Great Depression as evidence that it's perfectly possible for the government to just invent jobs to be done, and especially now that we're in the digital age, there is zero reason to keep a 'conscription to vote' scheme as military only. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) Required civil service would be a very interesting program. Especially if they used it to build out important infrastructure like national parks that might otherwise be neglected. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 year ago I'm remembering one discussion in particular where he used the Civilian Conservation Corps and other work-relief programs during the Great Depression as evidence that it's perfectly possible for the government to just invent jobs to be done, and especially now that we're in the digital age, there is zero reason to keep a 'conscription to vote' scheme as military only. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 year ago I'm remembering one discussion in particular where he used the Civilian Conservation Corps and other work-relief programs during the Great Depression as evidence that it's perfectly possible for the government to just invent jobs to be done, and especially now that we're in the digital age, there is zero reason to keep a 'conscription to vote' scheme as military only. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago People in the military are less likely to disobey corrupt orders as long as they come from the correct chain of command. Power comes from a politically consolidated military. The larger the military the greater the reigns of power become. That'd be one incentive for the people in power to force citizens into the military. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (1 child) Trump's Golden Passport, only five millions, for a limited time only! Lets you go visa free to beautiful Puerto Rico, Guam, and soon to Canada and Greenland. Other destinations pending. Order yours now! Conditions may apply. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Denixen@feddit.nu 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) Don't forget the Gaza Rivera. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sporkler@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) and depending on where you fall on the color chart, potentially sunny Guantanamo Bay. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Denixen@feddit.nu 1 point 1 year ago I don't think you'll need a passport to go there though 😬 if anything they'll burn the one you have... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Denixen@feddit.nu 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) Don't forget the Gaza Rivera. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sporkler@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) and depending on where you fall on the color chart, potentially sunny Guantanamo Bay. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Denixen@feddit.nu 1 point 1 year ago I don't think you'll need a passport to go there though 😬 if anything they'll burn the one you have... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sporkler@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) and depending on where you fall on the color chart, potentially sunny Guantanamo Bay. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Denixen@feddit.nu 1 point 1 year ago I don't think you'll need a passport to go there though 😬 if anything they'll burn the one you have... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Denixen@feddit.nu 1 point 1 year ago I don't think you'll need a passport to go there though 😬 if anything they'll burn the one you have... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sanimalp@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago I mean, they basically already have.. It cost $165/person for a passport that can go anywhere but Canada and Mexico. Over $600 for a family before you can even go anywhere. For probably 90% of families, that sort of disposable income is a dream when most people can't afford a $500 emergency expense. permalink fedilink source parent
