▲ 860 ▼ U.S. v. Trump Will Be the Most Important Case in Our Nation’s History (slate.com) submitted 3 years ago by eurekaphoenix@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world 83 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 21 points 3 years ago (2 children) Okay. So. Just one question. Which US vs Trump are we talking about? There’s two. permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] flossdaily@lemmy.world 26 points 3 years ago (3 children) The Jan 6 conspiracy indictment that just dropped. If Trump is allowed to get away with his attempted coup, it's an existential crisis for our country. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] capt_wolf@lemmy.world 28 points 3 years ago (1 child) Existential crisis is putting it mildly. A win means total validation for him, his cronies, and all the people who supported/participated in his coup. He'll ride the "I told you I was innocent! They stole the last one! They can't steal this one!" train through his entire campaign. The morons who drank the kool-aid last time will be out for blood. I'm terrified to think of what comes next if he manages to worm his way back into power, but I really don't want to spend my days in another country as a refugee... He needs to be made an example of and silenced for good. Him and everyone else involved. This can't happen again. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PRUSSIA_x86@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) My biggest fear is that Trump and DeSantis both run and split the ticket, but get more votes combined than Biden. Biden wins, red states refuse to certify, some move to secede and drag the rest with them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] flossdaily@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago I don't see DeSantis having that kind of support. But your point about Republican legislatures refusing to honor a popular vote that doesn't go their way is extremely valid. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Yearly1845@reddthat.com 7 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago Yeah. I guess my point is... there's two. yes. that makes me happy. I can be petty like that... permalink fedilink source parent [–] AlaskaMan@lemmy.world 12 points 3 years ago (1 child) There are three federal criminal cases—that we know of anyway. There may be more ongoing investigations. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) what's the third? My understanding is the current federal indictments are the one in florida for documents, and the one in DC for jan 6. His third indictment that I know of is the NY tax fraud that's in a state court (NY vs Trump or whatever) There's also georgia state charges that are still pending, and the "conviction" on rape allegations, a state civil charge. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AlaskaMan@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) My bad, I should have added that it’s conjecture on my part but I suspect the Feds are also investigating him for defrauding his donors to “stop the steal,” to the tune of ~$250 million. But yes, two confirmed federal cases. Good call. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago That would be hilarious. But also incredibly difficult. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] flossdaily@lemmy.world 26 points 3 years ago (3 children) The Jan 6 conspiracy indictment that just dropped. If Trump is allowed to get away with his attempted coup, it's an existential crisis for our country. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] capt_wolf@lemmy.world 28 points 3 years ago (1 child) Existential crisis is putting it mildly. A win means total validation for him, his cronies, and all the people who supported/participated in his coup. He'll ride the "I told you I was innocent! They stole the last one! They can't steal this one!" train through his entire campaign. The morons who drank the kool-aid last time will be out for blood. I'm terrified to think of what comes next if he manages to worm his way back into power, but I really don't want to spend my days in another country as a refugee... He needs to be made an example of and silenced for good. Him and everyone else involved. This can't happen again. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PRUSSIA_x86@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) My biggest fear is that Trump and DeSantis both run and split the ticket, but get more votes combined than Biden. Biden wins, red states refuse to certify, some move to secede and drag the rest with them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] flossdaily@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago I don't see DeSantis having that kind of support. But your point about Republican legislatures refusing to honor a popular vote that doesn't go their way is extremely valid. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Yearly1845@reddthat.com 7 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago Yeah. I guess my point is... there's two. yes. that makes me happy. I can be petty like that... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] capt_wolf@lemmy.world 28 points 3 years ago (1 child) Existential crisis is putting it mildly. A win means total validation for him, his cronies, and all the people who supported/participated in his coup. He'll ride the "I told you I was innocent! They stole the last one! They can't steal this one!" train through his entire campaign. The morons who drank the kool-aid last time will be out for blood. I'm terrified to think of what comes next if he manages to worm his way back into power, but I really don't want to spend my days in another country as a refugee... He needs to be made an example of and silenced for good. Him and everyone else involved. This can't happen again. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PRUSSIA_x86@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) My biggest fear is that Trump and DeSantis both run and split the ticket, but get more votes combined than Biden. Biden wins, red states refuse to certify, some move to secede and drag the rest with them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] flossdaily@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago I don't see DeSantis having that kind of support. But your point about Republican legislatures refusing to honor a popular vote that doesn't go their way is extremely valid. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PRUSSIA_x86@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) My biggest fear is that Trump and DeSantis both run and split the ticket, but get more votes combined than Biden. Biden wins, red states refuse to certify, some move to secede and drag the rest with them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] flossdaily@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago I don't see DeSantis having that kind of support. But your point about Republican legislatures refusing to honor a popular vote that doesn't go their way is extremely valid. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] flossdaily@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago I don't see DeSantis having that kind of support. But your point about Republican legislatures refusing to honor a popular vote that doesn't go their way is extremely valid. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Yearly1845@reddthat.com 7 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago Yeah. I guess my point is... there's two. yes. that makes me happy. I can be petty like that... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AlaskaMan@lemmy.world 12 points 3 years ago (1 child) There are three federal criminal cases—that we know of anyway. There may be more ongoing investigations. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) what's the third? My understanding is the current federal indictments are the one in florida for documents, and the one in DC for jan 6. His third indictment that I know of is the NY tax fraud that's in a state court (NY vs Trump or whatever) There's also georgia state charges that are still pending, and the "conviction" on rape allegations, a state civil charge. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AlaskaMan@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) My bad, I should have added that it’s conjecture on my part but I suspect the Feds are also investigating him for defrauding his donors to “stop the steal,” to the tune of ~$250 million. But yes, two confirmed federal cases. Good call. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago That would be hilarious. But also incredibly difficult. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) what's the third? My understanding is the current federal indictments are the one in florida for documents, and the one in DC for jan 6. His third indictment that I know of is the NY tax fraud that's in a state court (NY vs Trump or whatever) There's also georgia state charges that are still pending, and the "conviction" on rape allegations, a state civil charge. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AlaskaMan@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) My bad, I should have added that it’s conjecture on my part but I suspect the Feds are also investigating him for defrauding his donors to “stop the steal,” to the tune of ~$250 million. But yes, two confirmed federal cases. Good call. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago That would be hilarious. But also incredibly difficult. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AlaskaMan@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) My bad, I should have added that it’s conjecture on my part but I suspect the Feds are also investigating him for defrauding his donors to “stop the steal,” to the tune of ~$250 million. But yes, two confirmed federal cases. Good call. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago That would be hilarious. But also incredibly difficult. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago That would be hilarious. But also incredibly difficult. permalink fedilink source parent