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[–] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The question is how are we gonna go about that.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    All I can tell you is it has to get a lot worse before it gets better. I don't see change coming without bloodshed because those in power and their enablers don't want either of those things to happen.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    We start by closing loopholes and making the rich pay their way.

    And if they don't? Guillotines, baby!

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I'm all for that, truly.

    How do we start?

    We've been talking about this online for as long as I remember, and my beard is starting to get grey hairs. To be honest, it's been pumping up recently, but it's still just unorganised discontent instead of an actual organised effort to do something. And those do exist, yeah, but they don't rival the power of the large companies.

    So I'm starting to lose my optimism.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Organizing is hard and I don't know how to do it, either. It doesn't help that a lot of media is owned by conservatives, and the police/gov't historically hasn't hesitated to murder organizers (see: fred hampon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Hampton )

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    I think it's easier for conservatives because they just attract morons and their aims aren't creating a unified entity to do something, rather it's to benefit personally.

    It's way harder to create a peaceful global cooperative than it is to sow chaos and steal things.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Also i think it's easier when you have the backing of the wealthy. i think the "tea party" had rich backers, for example, while 'occupy wall street' never had the same financial support.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    I think with the internet, we could actually change this.

    I think that if there was a unified community, a properly large one, one could use the economic power derived from the consumers to target specific things.

    Wouldn't need strikes. You'd just need an app to tell you what things not to buy for a week and what are the alternatives so you can still get your addiction on, whatever it may be (coffee, alcohol, dresses, chocolate, a specific type of heroin, who cares).

    Like a global union, with the power that a full strike gives you, but without having to actually even strike.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    interesting, but the problem remains: how do you create that unified community? Left-wing people seem especially prone to infighting, at least compared to the right wing where big business and alleged christians are happy to get in bed together.

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