James Cameron shared on Friday that the upcoming “Avatar: Fire and Ash,” set to release Dec. 19, 2025, will be even longer than its predecessor "The Way Of Water."

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[–] 39 points 1 year ago* (6 children)

Does anyone watch these movies?

I know what the sales numbers say, but I have never once ever heard anyone bring up avatar, or the lore, or how it made them feel.

The first one was literally just Pocahontas, but we all went and saw it cause everyone talked about how we were going to.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    As I seem to have to say in all of these threads about avatar since hating on them has become some kind of personality.

    Hi yeah I really enjoyed the both movies and looking forward to the third one. I have watched both in theaters and own physical copies of both and probably the third.

    14 year olds in 2010 were pointing out its Pocahontas, it's not wrong but it's not rocket science to know the point and budget of these movies is the tech used to build and render the world which sets the standard for movies for years to come.

    Would love to hear any original thoughts if you have any

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    As I seem to have to say in all of these threads about avatar since hating on them has become some kind of personality.

    Shitty movie gets hyped by the media because it has a famous name attached to it, millions of people get dragged by someone to go watch it because of the overhyped nature, millions of people now hate it.

    It's not a personality, it's just a shared shitty experience that many of us have.

    14 year olds in 2010 were pointing out its Pocahontas, it's not wrong but it's not rocket science to know the point and budget of these movies is the tech used to build and render the world which sets the standard for movies for years to come.

    Lol, Im supposed to like it because it's a 4 hour long tech demo for CGI that's slightly better than it was the year before?

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    As someone who didn't enjoy the first movie and didn't see the second one, both of you have valid opinions but only one of you is pushing the idea that the movie is objectively shitty. It's not objectively anything, and you don't have to yuck anyone else's yum.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    like some borderline cultural appropriation white guilt stuff.

    I feel this is more telling on you tbh. Honestly as an adult I appreciate it and it's world building. It's does portray colonialism and does go into many other interesting topics and world values, unfortunately none of those messages hit you, I'm truly not surprised.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Plus Last of the Mohicans and a smidge of Smurfs.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    literally a remake of fern gulley.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It's almost like we've been telling these stories for centuries and nothing ever changes.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Almost like were telling the same story that's been around for hundreds of years with the latest technology available. I'm sure in 40 years you can tell your grandkids how lame avatar is because the new generation of the same story is out

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    That "just Pocahontas" argument is kind of tiring because retelling a story doesn't automatically make it bad. It's like saying "Lion King, meh, literally just Hamlet".

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    Lion King is an actual adaptation of Hamlet that tells its own story following the rough large plot beats of Hamlet. Avatar is just Pocahontas set in the Halo universe, with the names switched.

    And at a base level, the Disney version of the Pocahontas story is not a particularly interesting or nuanced plot line, which makes its adaptations that much more plainly obvious and surface level, compared to something introspective like Hamlet.

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