β² 1002 βΌ The capitalist press (lemmy.ml) submitted 1 year ago by Confidant6198@lemmy.ml to c/comicstrips@lemmy.world 117 comments fedilink hide all child comments cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/26512687
[β] NewDark@lemmings.world 15 points 1 year ago* (2 children) Authoritarian is not fascism. It is a component, but communism and fascism are not even close to synonymous. There was one famine from mismanagement, and Stalin wasn't a great guy but this shit is really overblown. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] naught101@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Are you trying to say that authoritarianism is a component of fascism, but fascism isn't the only type of authoritarianism? 'Cause that's not super clear from your wording. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] NewDark@lemmings.world 0 points 1 year ago Yes permalink fedilink source parent [+] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -22 points 1 year ago (2 children) The USSR was a fascism because it was a central dictatorship with violent tendencies. The actual definition of the term. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] yunxiaoli@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago (2 children) That's not the definition of the term, by any ones analysis. The simplest, original definition is that fascism is state and corporate power combined. Like the US has been for half a century. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Didn't the state own all the corporations in the USSR? How would that not be state and corporate power combined? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] yunxiaoli@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) There were no corporations in the ussr. There were business, not multi regional conglomerates. And even then the purpose of a corporation is to profit. That is it's sole goal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) That doesn't change that the powers of governance and commerce were in the same hands. Changing what you call it is just semantics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] yunxiaoli@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) Intent is incredibly important. In all systems trade happens. The idea that capitalism=markets is incredibly stupid, equally stupid is the idea that all work is done under a corporation for the sole purpose of making someone else rich, as you have suggested here. The problem is not that things are done for the sake of the state or not, but what purpose things are done for. In fascism the state is owned by corporate interests, the leading interest being whatever dictator sits at the top. Work is done solely to make those corporate owners privately rich, nothing more. Each system is built openly for class oppression. Even in the most brain rotted American views the ussr is nothing like that. You'd have to be a fascist or brain damaged to even try to argue it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) the leading interest being whatever dictator sits at the top. This is the part that matters. This is also true for Soviet communism or really any real life communism. The instruments are different, but the song is the same. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] yunxiaoli@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) The guy who literally changed the rules so he could stay in power indefinitely isn't a dictator? Right, there is no point in continuing if you can't agree on objective reality. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] yunxiaoli@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago So you just have no idea what you're talking about and are proud of it why? permalink fedilink source parent [+] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -13 points 1 year ago (1 child) yunxiaoli, you've been made a complete fool of. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] yunxiaoli@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago 1.67 is really specific, did that number come from anything, or is it just random? permalink fedilink source parent [β] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) If you truly promoted socialism you would never support the USSR or the CCP. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] yunxiaoli@sh.itjust.works -9 points 1 year ago (1 child) And if you knew anything about socialism you'd support the cpc. Maybe not the ussr but we've learned from their failures. China is a fully socialist state. If you think otherwise you either stopped paying attention to socialism in the mid 1800s, or you don't know enough about China. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Yppm@lemy.lol 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) I think when most people fantasize about socialism they are thinking of Nordic style and not authoritarian CCP style. My litmus test is the ability to openly criticize your government. In an open and free society this is allowed. Any authoritarian society, regardless of economic system, is not in the right track. In my opinion. Then again I only consume western media so maybe the CCP isn't that bad. Can you tell me what happened on June 4th, 1989? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Malfeasant@lemm.ee 1 point 1 year ago I wanted to make a joke reply and list a bunch of other unrelated things that happened on that day... But of course I find nothing but that one thing... permalink fedilink source parent [β] NewDark@lemmings.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) Google is free dude. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Zacryon@feddit.org 3 points 1 year ago Google is evil. Use another search engine instead. https://european-alternatives.eu/alternative-to/google-search permalink fedilink source parent [β] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Google doesn't cost money, but it's not free. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] naught101@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Are you trying to say that authoritarianism is a component of fascism, but fascism isn't the only type of authoritarianism? 'Cause that's not super clear from your wording. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] NewDark@lemmings.world 0 points 1 year ago Yes permalink fedilink source parent
[+] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -22 points 1 year ago (2 children) The USSR was a fascism because it was a central dictatorship with violent tendencies. The actual definition of the term. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] yunxiaoli@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago (2 children) That's not the definition of the term, by any ones analysis. The simplest, original definition is that fascism is state and corporate power combined. Like the US has been for half a century. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Didn't the state own all the corporations in the USSR? How would that not be state and corporate power combined? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] yunxiaoli@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) There were no corporations in the ussr. There were business, not multi regional conglomerates. And even then the purpose of a corporation is to profit. That is it's sole goal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) That doesn't change that the powers of governance and commerce were in the same hands. Changing what you call it is just semantics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] yunxiaoli@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) Intent is incredibly important. In all systems trade happens. The idea that capitalism=markets is incredibly stupid, equally stupid is the idea that all work is done under a corporation for the sole purpose of making someone else rich, as you have suggested here. The problem is not that things are done for the sake of the state or not, but what purpose things are done for. In fascism the state is owned by corporate interests, the leading interest being whatever dictator sits at the top. Work is done solely to make those corporate owners privately rich, nothing more. Each system is built openly for class oppression. Even in the most brain rotted American views the ussr is nothing like that. You'd have to be a fascist or brain damaged to even try to argue it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) the leading interest being whatever dictator sits at the top. This is the part that matters. This is also true for Soviet communism or really any real life communism. The instruments are different, but the song is the same. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] yunxiaoli@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) The guy who literally changed the rules so he could stay in power indefinitely isn't a dictator? Right, there is no point in continuing if you can't agree on objective reality. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] yunxiaoli@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago So you just have no idea what you're talking about and are proud of it why? permalink fedilink source parent [+] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -13 points 1 year ago (1 child) yunxiaoli, you've been made a complete fool of. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] yunxiaoli@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago 1.67 is really specific, did that number come from anything, or is it just random? permalink fedilink source parent [β] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) If you truly promoted socialism you would never support the USSR or the CCP. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] yunxiaoli@sh.itjust.works -9 points 1 year ago (1 child) And if you knew anything about socialism you'd support the cpc. Maybe not the ussr but we've learned from their failures. China is a fully socialist state. If you think otherwise you either stopped paying attention to socialism in the mid 1800s, or you don't know enough about China. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Yppm@lemy.lol 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) I think when most people fantasize about socialism they are thinking of Nordic style and not authoritarian CCP style. My litmus test is the ability to openly criticize your government. In an open and free society this is allowed. Any authoritarian society, regardless of economic system, is not in the right track. In my opinion. Then again I only consume western media so maybe the CCP isn't that bad. Can you tell me what happened on June 4th, 1989? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Malfeasant@lemm.ee 1 point 1 year ago I wanted to make a joke reply and list a bunch of other unrelated things that happened on that day... But of course I find nothing but that one thing... permalink fedilink source parent [β] NewDark@lemmings.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) Google is free dude. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Zacryon@feddit.org 3 points 1 year ago Google is evil. Use another search engine instead. https://european-alternatives.eu/alternative-to/google-search permalink fedilink source parent [β] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Google doesn't cost money, but it's not free. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] yunxiaoli@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago (2 children) That's not the definition of the term, by any ones analysis. The simplest, original definition is that fascism is state and corporate power combined. Like the US has been for half a century. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Didn't the state own all the corporations in the USSR? How would that not be state and corporate power combined? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] yunxiaoli@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) There were no corporations in the ussr. There were business, not multi regional conglomerates. And even then the purpose of a corporation is to profit. That is it's sole goal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) That doesn't change that the powers of governance and commerce were in the same hands. Changing what you call it is just semantics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] yunxiaoli@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) Intent is incredibly important. In all systems trade happens. The idea that capitalism=markets is incredibly stupid, equally stupid is the idea that all work is done under a corporation for the sole purpose of making someone else rich, as you have suggested here. The problem is not that things are done for the sake of the state or not, but what purpose things are done for. In fascism the state is owned by corporate interests, the leading interest being whatever dictator sits at the top. Work is done solely to make those corporate owners privately rich, nothing more. Each system is built openly for class oppression. Even in the most brain rotted American views the ussr is nothing like that. You'd have to be a fascist or brain damaged to even try to argue it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) the leading interest being whatever dictator sits at the top. This is the part that matters. This is also true for Soviet communism or really any real life communism. The instruments are different, but the song is the same. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] yunxiaoli@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) The guy who literally changed the rules so he could stay in power indefinitely isn't a dictator? Right, there is no point in continuing if you can't agree on objective reality. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] yunxiaoli@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago So you just have no idea what you're talking about and are proud of it why? permalink fedilink source parent [+] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -13 points 1 year ago (1 child) yunxiaoli, you've been made a complete fool of. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] yunxiaoli@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago 1.67 is really specific, did that number come from anything, or is it just random? permalink fedilink source parent [β] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) If you truly promoted socialism you would never support the USSR or the CCP. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] yunxiaoli@sh.itjust.works -9 points 1 year ago (1 child) And if you knew anything about socialism you'd support the cpc. Maybe not the ussr but we've learned from their failures. China is a fully socialist state. If you think otherwise you either stopped paying attention to socialism in the mid 1800s, or you don't know enough about China. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Yppm@lemy.lol 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) I think when most people fantasize about socialism they are thinking of Nordic style and not authoritarian CCP style. My litmus test is the ability to openly criticize your government. In an open and free society this is allowed. Any authoritarian society, regardless of economic system, is not in the right track. In my opinion. Then again I only consume western media so maybe the CCP isn't that bad. Can you tell me what happened on June 4th, 1989? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Malfeasant@lemm.ee 1 point 1 year ago I wanted to make a joke reply and list a bunch of other unrelated things that happened on that day... But of course I find nothing but that one thing... permalink fedilink source parent
[β] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Didn't the state own all the corporations in the USSR? How would that not be state and corporate power combined? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] yunxiaoli@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) There were no corporations in the ussr. There were business, not multi regional conglomerates. And even then the purpose of a corporation is to profit. That is it's sole goal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) That doesn't change that the powers of governance and commerce were in the same hands. Changing what you call it is just semantics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] yunxiaoli@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) Intent is incredibly important. In all systems trade happens. The idea that capitalism=markets is incredibly stupid, equally stupid is the idea that all work is done under a corporation for the sole purpose of making someone else rich, as you have suggested here. The problem is not that things are done for the sake of the state or not, but what purpose things are done for. In fascism the state is owned by corporate interests, the leading interest being whatever dictator sits at the top. Work is done solely to make those corporate owners privately rich, nothing more. Each system is built openly for class oppression. Even in the most brain rotted American views the ussr is nothing like that. You'd have to be a fascist or brain damaged to even try to argue it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) the leading interest being whatever dictator sits at the top. This is the part that matters. This is also true for Soviet communism or really any real life communism. The instruments are different, but the song is the same. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] yunxiaoli@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) The guy who literally changed the rules so he could stay in power indefinitely isn't a dictator? Right, there is no point in continuing if you can't agree on objective reality. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] yunxiaoli@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago So you just have no idea what you're talking about and are proud of it why? permalink fedilink source parent
[β] yunxiaoli@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) There were no corporations in the ussr. There were business, not multi regional conglomerates. And even then the purpose of a corporation is to profit. That is it's sole goal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) That doesn't change that the powers of governance and commerce were in the same hands. Changing what you call it is just semantics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] yunxiaoli@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) Intent is incredibly important. In all systems trade happens. The idea that capitalism=markets is incredibly stupid, equally stupid is the idea that all work is done under a corporation for the sole purpose of making someone else rich, as you have suggested here. The problem is not that things are done for the sake of the state or not, but what purpose things are done for. In fascism the state is owned by corporate interests, the leading interest being whatever dictator sits at the top. Work is done solely to make those corporate owners privately rich, nothing more. Each system is built openly for class oppression. Even in the most brain rotted American views the ussr is nothing like that. You'd have to be a fascist or brain damaged to even try to argue it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) the leading interest being whatever dictator sits at the top. This is the part that matters. This is also true for Soviet communism or really any real life communism. The instruments are different, but the song is the same. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] yunxiaoli@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) The guy who literally changed the rules so he could stay in power indefinitely isn't a dictator? Right, there is no point in continuing if you can't agree on objective reality. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] yunxiaoli@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago So you just have no idea what you're talking about and are proud of it why? permalink fedilink source parent
[β] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) That doesn't change that the powers of governance and commerce were in the same hands. Changing what you call it is just semantics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] yunxiaoli@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) Intent is incredibly important. In all systems trade happens. The idea that capitalism=markets is incredibly stupid, equally stupid is the idea that all work is done under a corporation for the sole purpose of making someone else rich, as you have suggested here. The problem is not that things are done for the sake of the state or not, but what purpose things are done for. In fascism the state is owned by corporate interests, the leading interest being whatever dictator sits at the top. Work is done solely to make those corporate owners privately rich, nothing more. Each system is built openly for class oppression. Even in the most brain rotted American views the ussr is nothing like that. You'd have to be a fascist or brain damaged to even try to argue it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) the leading interest being whatever dictator sits at the top. This is the part that matters. This is also true for Soviet communism or really any real life communism. The instruments are different, but the song is the same. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] yunxiaoli@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) The guy who literally changed the rules so he could stay in power indefinitely isn't a dictator? Right, there is no point in continuing if you can't agree on objective reality. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] yunxiaoli@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago So you just have no idea what you're talking about and are proud of it why? permalink fedilink source parent
[β] yunxiaoli@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) Intent is incredibly important. In all systems trade happens. The idea that capitalism=markets is incredibly stupid, equally stupid is the idea that all work is done under a corporation for the sole purpose of making someone else rich, as you have suggested here. The problem is not that things are done for the sake of the state or not, but what purpose things are done for. In fascism the state is owned by corporate interests, the leading interest being whatever dictator sits at the top. Work is done solely to make those corporate owners privately rich, nothing more. Each system is built openly for class oppression. Even in the most brain rotted American views the ussr is nothing like that. You'd have to be a fascist or brain damaged to even try to argue it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) the leading interest being whatever dictator sits at the top. This is the part that matters. This is also true for Soviet communism or really any real life communism. The instruments are different, but the song is the same. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] yunxiaoli@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) The guy who literally changed the rules so he could stay in power indefinitely isn't a dictator? Right, there is no point in continuing if you can't agree on objective reality. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] yunxiaoli@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago So you just have no idea what you're talking about and are proud of it why? permalink fedilink source parent
[β] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) the leading interest being whatever dictator sits at the top. This is the part that matters. This is also true for Soviet communism or really any real life communism. The instruments are different, but the song is the same. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] yunxiaoli@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) The guy who literally changed the rules so he could stay in power indefinitely isn't a dictator? Right, there is no point in continuing if you can't agree on objective reality. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] yunxiaoli@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago So you just have no idea what you're talking about and are proud of it why? permalink fedilink source parent
[+] yunxiaoli@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) The guy who literally changed the rules so he could stay in power indefinitely isn't a dictator? Right, there is no point in continuing if you can't agree on objective reality. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] yunxiaoli@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago So you just have no idea what you're talking about and are proud of it why? permalink fedilink source parent
[β] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) The guy who literally changed the rules so he could stay in power indefinitely isn't a dictator? Right, there is no point in continuing if you can't agree on objective reality. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] yunxiaoli@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago So you just have no idea what you're talking about and are proud of it why? permalink fedilink source parent
[β] yunxiaoli@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago So you just have no idea what you're talking about and are proud of it why? permalink fedilink source parent
[+] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -13 points 1 year ago (1 child) yunxiaoli, you've been made a complete fool of. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] yunxiaoli@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago 1.67 is really specific, did that number come from anything, or is it just random? permalink fedilink source parent [β] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) If you truly promoted socialism you would never support the USSR or the CCP. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] yunxiaoli@sh.itjust.works -9 points 1 year ago (1 child) And if you knew anything about socialism you'd support the cpc. Maybe not the ussr but we've learned from their failures. China is a fully socialist state. If you think otherwise you either stopped paying attention to socialism in the mid 1800s, or you don't know enough about China. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Yppm@lemy.lol 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) I think when most people fantasize about socialism they are thinking of Nordic style and not authoritarian CCP style. My litmus test is the ability to openly criticize your government. In an open and free society this is allowed. Any authoritarian society, regardless of economic system, is not in the right track. In my opinion. Then again I only consume western media so maybe the CCP isn't that bad. Can you tell me what happened on June 4th, 1989? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Malfeasant@lemm.ee 1 point 1 year ago I wanted to make a joke reply and list a bunch of other unrelated things that happened on that day... But of course I find nothing but that one thing... permalink fedilink source parent
[+] yunxiaoli@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago 1.67 is really specific, did that number come from anything, or is it just random? permalink fedilink source parent [β] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) If you truly promoted socialism you would never support the USSR or the CCP. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] yunxiaoli@sh.itjust.works -9 points 1 year ago (1 child) And if you knew anything about socialism you'd support the cpc. Maybe not the ussr but we've learned from their failures. China is a fully socialist state. If you think otherwise you either stopped paying attention to socialism in the mid 1800s, or you don't know enough about China. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Yppm@lemy.lol 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) I think when most people fantasize about socialism they are thinking of Nordic style and not authoritarian CCP style. My litmus test is the ability to openly criticize your government. In an open and free society this is allowed. Any authoritarian society, regardless of economic system, is not in the right track. In my opinion. Then again I only consume western media so maybe the CCP isn't that bad. Can you tell me what happened on June 4th, 1989? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Malfeasant@lemm.ee 1 point 1 year ago I wanted to make a joke reply and list a bunch of other unrelated things that happened on that day... But of course I find nothing but that one thing... permalink fedilink source parent
[β] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago 1.67 is really specific, did that number come from anything, or is it just random? permalink fedilink source parent
[β] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) If you truly promoted socialism you would never support the USSR or the CCP. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] yunxiaoli@sh.itjust.works -9 points 1 year ago (1 child) And if you knew anything about socialism you'd support the cpc. Maybe not the ussr but we've learned from their failures. China is a fully socialist state. If you think otherwise you either stopped paying attention to socialism in the mid 1800s, or you don't know enough about China. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Yppm@lemy.lol 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) I think when most people fantasize about socialism they are thinking of Nordic style and not authoritarian CCP style. My litmus test is the ability to openly criticize your government. In an open and free society this is allowed. Any authoritarian society, regardless of economic system, is not in the right track. In my opinion. Then again I only consume western media so maybe the CCP isn't that bad. Can you tell me what happened on June 4th, 1989? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Malfeasant@lemm.ee 1 point 1 year ago I wanted to make a joke reply and list a bunch of other unrelated things that happened on that day... But of course I find nothing but that one thing... permalink fedilink source parent
[+] yunxiaoli@sh.itjust.works -9 points 1 year ago (1 child) And if you knew anything about socialism you'd support the cpc. Maybe not the ussr but we've learned from their failures. China is a fully socialist state. If you think otherwise you either stopped paying attention to socialism in the mid 1800s, or you don't know enough about China. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Yppm@lemy.lol 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) I think when most people fantasize about socialism they are thinking of Nordic style and not authoritarian CCP style. My litmus test is the ability to openly criticize your government. In an open and free society this is allowed. Any authoritarian society, regardless of economic system, is not in the right track. In my opinion. Then again I only consume western media so maybe the CCP isn't that bad. Can you tell me what happened on June 4th, 1989? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Malfeasant@lemm.ee 1 point 1 year ago I wanted to make a joke reply and list a bunch of other unrelated things that happened on that day... But of course I find nothing but that one thing... permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Yppm@lemy.lol 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) I think when most people fantasize about socialism they are thinking of Nordic style and not authoritarian CCP style. My litmus test is the ability to openly criticize your government. In an open and free society this is allowed. Any authoritarian society, regardless of economic system, is not in the right track. In my opinion. Then again I only consume western media so maybe the CCP isn't that bad. Can you tell me what happened on June 4th, 1989? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Malfeasant@lemm.ee 1 point 1 year ago I wanted to make a joke reply and list a bunch of other unrelated things that happened on that day... But of course I find nothing but that one thing... permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Malfeasant@lemm.ee 1 point 1 year ago I wanted to make a joke reply and list a bunch of other unrelated things that happened on that day... But of course I find nothing but that one thing... permalink fedilink source parent
[β] NewDark@lemmings.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) Google is free dude. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Zacryon@feddit.org 3 points 1 year ago Google is evil. Use another search engine instead. https://european-alternatives.eu/alternative-to/google-search permalink fedilink source parent [β] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Google doesn't cost money, but it's not free. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Zacryon@feddit.org 3 points 1 year ago Google is evil. Use another search engine instead. https://european-alternatives.eu/alternative-to/google-search permalink fedilink source parent
[β] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Google doesn't cost money, but it's not free. permalink fedilink source parent