▲ 792 ▼ Carmakers are failing the privacy test. Owners have little to no control of the data they hand over (www.ctvnews.ca) submitted 2 years ago by DoctorTYVM@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 77 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] lilShalom@lemmy.basedcount.com 12 points 2 years ago (2 children) Dont buy the car. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] gnutrino@programming.dev 42 points 2 years ago (3 children) Thanks for the advice, I'll just walk 26 miles to work each day I guess... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] lilShalom@lemmy.basedcount.com 12 points 2 years ago Get something made before 2017. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Wookie@artemis.camp 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) They sell other cars you know? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] guyrocket@kbin.social 20 points 2 years ago (3 children) Great. Which ones will not spy on me? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] deus@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) Cars made in the 20th century are probably safe. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] CaptainPedantic@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) Safe from a privacy perspective. Otherwise they're very unsafe by modern standards. Minimal airbags. Often no ABS. What ABS that is there is less sophisticated than modern systems. Worse structures for crash protection. No stability control. No traction control. Plus they're just old. Last year, I spent more on my 20 year old car than I did on my 2 year old car, that includes loan payments on the new car, fuel, tires, insurance, and maintenance. Get something from this century at least. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Twenty years old is this century, twenty years ago is 2003. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CaptainPedantic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) To be specific my car is actually 23 years old. To be really pedantic, it was manufactured in 1999. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago I was being a smartass, but im in roughly the same boat mines 22 years old. Also I think yours would be 24 years old unless it was built late in the year. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ekky43@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 years ago* Go for a car from the 19th century just to be sure. They might miss a few features, such as differential, but if you're worried about your privacy it'll be worth it! /j obviously. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TopShelfVanilla@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago I will drive my 06xB till the wheels fall off permalink fedilink source parent [–] Wookie@artemis.camp -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) I guess you’ll have to do your research on that but you saying there is not one car for you is just wrong permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] monk@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago This article is literally about how they tested 25 brands and zero of them passed privacy review. permalink fedilink source parent [–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) You can take public transportation. Oh wait, that requires governments to actually supply cities with useful and we'll organized public transportation and since you're probably in the US (the only country left that still uses the useless "miles" metric) and the US government has been bought up by (amongst others)car companies, there isn't any meaningful pyblxi transportation left. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] demlet@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) I can assure you that miles are quite useful for determining distance, I do it nearly every day. Other than that you're spot on. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) So are banana's but we don't use those either permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] demlet@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) How ironic. I guess you haven't been on Reddit in the past decade. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) 13 years Redditor, on average 2 posts and 20 comments per day. I was a power user there until the purge permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] demlet@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago So maybe you were joking and I didn't catch it? permalink fedilink source parent [–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago That would've been possible when consumers had a choice but now it's too late. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gnutrino@programming.dev 42 points 2 years ago (3 children) Thanks for the advice, I'll just walk 26 miles to work each day I guess... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] lilShalom@lemmy.basedcount.com 12 points 2 years ago Get something made before 2017. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Wookie@artemis.camp 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) They sell other cars you know? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] guyrocket@kbin.social 20 points 2 years ago (3 children) Great. Which ones will not spy on me? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] deus@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) Cars made in the 20th century are probably safe. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] CaptainPedantic@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) Safe from a privacy perspective. Otherwise they're very unsafe by modern standards. Minimal airbags. Often no ABS. What ABS that is there is less sophisticated than modern systems. Worse structures for crash protection. No stability control. No traction control. Plus they're just old. Last year, I spent more on my 20 year old car than I did on my 2 year old car, that includes loan payments on the new car, fuel, tires, insurance, and maintenance. Get something from this century at least. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Twenty years old is this century, twenty years ago is 2003. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CaptainPedantic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) To be specific my car is actually 23 years old. To be really pedantic, it was manufactured in 1999. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago I was being a smartass, but im in roughly the same boat mines 22 years old. Also I think yours would be 24 years old unless it was built late in the year. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ekky43@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 years ago* Go for a car from the 19th century just to be sure. They might miss a few features, such as differential, but if you're worried about your privacy it'll be worth it! /j obviously. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TopShelfVanilla@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago I will drive my 06xB till the wheels fall off permalink fedilink source parent [–] Wookie@artemis.camp -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) I guess you’ll have to do your research on that but you saying there is not one car for you is just wrong permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] monk@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago This article is literally about how they tested 25 brands and zero of them passed privacy review. permalink fedilink source parent [–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) You can take public transportation. Oh wait, that requires governments to actually supply cities with useful and we'll organized public transportation and since you're probably in the US (the only country left that still uses the useless "miles" metric) and the US government has been bought up by (amongst others)car companies, there isn't any meaningful pyblxi transportation left. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] demlet@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) I can assure you that miles are quite useful for determining distance, I do it nearly every day. Other than that you're spot on. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) So are banana's but we don't use those either permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] demlet@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) How ironic. I guess you haven't been on Reddit in the past decade. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) 13 years Redditor, on average 2 posts and 20 comments per day. I was a power user there until the purge permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] demlet@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago So maybe you were joking and I didn't catch it? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lilShalom@lemmy.basedcount.com 12 points 2 years ago Get something made before 2017. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Wookie@artemis.camp 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) They sell other cars you know? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] guyrocket@kbin.social 20 points 2 years ago (3 children) Great. Which ones will not spy on me? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] deus@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) Cars made in the 20th century are probably safe. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] CaptainPedantic@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) Safe from a privacy perspective. Otherwise they're very unsafe by modern standards. Minimal airbags. Often no ABS. What ABS that is there is less sophisticated than modern systems. Worse structures for crash protection. No stability control. No traction control. Plus they're just old. Last year, I spent more on my 20 year old car than I did on my 2 year old car, that includes loan payments on the new car, fuel, tires, insurance, and maintenance. Get something from this century at least. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Twenty years old is this century, twenty years ago is 2003. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CaptainPedantic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) To be specific my car is actually 23 years old. To be really pedantic, it was manufactured in 1999. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago I was being a smartass, but im in roughly the same boat mines 22 years old. Also I think yours would be 24 years old unless it was built late in the year. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ekky43@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 years ago* Go for a car from the 19th century just to be sure. They might miss a few features, such as differential, but if you're worried about your privacy it'll be worth it! /j obviously. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TopShelfVanilla@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago I will drive my 06xB till the wheels fall off permalink fedilink source parent [–] Wookie@artemis.camp -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) I guess you’ll have to do your research on that but you saying there is not one car for you is just wrong permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] monk@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago This article is literally about how they tested 25 brands and zero of them passed privacy review. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] guyrocket@kbin.social 20 points 2 years ago (3 children) Great. Which ones will not spy on me? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] deus@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) Cars made in the 20th century are probably safe. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] CaptainPedantic@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) Safe from a privacy perspective. Otherwise they're very unsafe by modern standards. Minimal airbags. Often no ABS. What ABS that is there is less sophisticated than modern systems. Worse structures for crash protection. No stability control. No traction control. Plus they're just old. Last year, I spent more on my 20 year old car than I did on my 2 year old car, that includes loan payments on the new car, fuel, tires, insurance, and maintenance. Get something from this century at least. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Twenty years old is this century, twenty years ago is 2003. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CaptainPedantic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) To be specific my car is actually 23 years old. To be really pedantic, it was manufactured in 1999. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago I was being a smartass, but im in roughly the same boat mines 22 years old. Also I think yours would be 24 years old unless it was built late in the year. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ekky43@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 years ago* Go for a car from the 19th century just to be sure. They might miss a few features, such as differential, but if you're worried about your privacy it'll be worth it! /j obviously. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TopShelfVanilla@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago I will drive my 06xB till the wheels fall off permalink fedilink source parent [–] Wookie@artemis.camp -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) I guess you’ll have to do your research on that but you saying there is not one car for you is just wrong permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] monk@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago This article is literally about how they tested 25 brands and zero of them passed privacy review. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] deus@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) Cars made in the 20th century are probably safe. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] CaptainPedantic@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) Safe from a privacy perspective. Otherwise they're very unsafe by modern standards. Minimal airbags. Often no ABS. What ABS that is there is less sophisticated than modern systems. Worse structures for crash protection. No stability control. No traction control. Plus they're just old. Last year, I spent more on my 20 year old car than I did on my 2 year old car, that includes loan payments on the new car, fuel, tires, insurance, and maintenance. Get something from this century at least. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Twenty years old is this century, twenty years ago is 2003. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CaptainPedantic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) To be specific my car is actually 23 years old. To be really pedantic, it was manufactured in 1999. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago I was being a smartass, but im in roughly the same boat mines 22 years old. Also I think yours would be 24 years old unless it was built late in the year. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ekky43@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 years ago* Go for a car from the 19th century just to be sure. They might miss a few features, such as differential, but if you're worried about your privacy it'll be worth it! /j obviously. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CaptainPedantic@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) Safe from a privacy perspective. Otherwise they're very unsafe by modern standards. Minimal airbags. Often no ABS. What ABS that is there is less sophisticated than modern systems. Worse structures for crash protection. No stability control. No traction control. Plus they're just old. Last year, I spent more on my 20 year old car than I did on my 2 year old car, that includes loan payments on the new car, fuel, tires, insurance, and maintenance. Get something from this century at least. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Twenty years old is this century, twenty years ago is 2003. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CaptainPedantic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) To be specific my car is actually 23 years old. To be really pedantic, it was manufactured in 1999. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago I was being a smartass, but im in roughly the same boat mines 22 years old. Also I think yours would be 24 years old unless it was built late in the year. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Twenty years old is this century, twenty years ago is 2003. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CaptainPedantic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) To be specific my car is actually 23 years old. To be really pedantic, it was manufactured in 1999. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago I was being a smartass, but im in roughly the same boat mines 22 years old. Also I think yours would be 24 years old unless it was built late in the year. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CaptainPedantic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) To be specific my car is actually 23 years old. To be really pedantic, it was manufactured in 1999. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago I was being a smartass, but im in roughly the same boat mines 22 years old. Also I think yours would be 24 years old unless it was built late in the year. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago I was being a smartass, but im in roughly the same boat mines 22 years old. Also I think yours would be 24 years old unless it was built late in the year. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ekky43@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 years ago* Go for a car from the 19th century just to be sure. They might miss a few features, such as differential, but if you're worried about your privacy it'll be worth it! /j obviously. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TopShelfVanilla@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago I will drive my 06xB till the wheels fall off permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Wookie@artemis.camp -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) I guess you’ll have to do your research on that but you saying there is not one car for you is just wrong permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] monk@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago This article is literally about how they tested 25 brands and zero of them passed privacy review. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] monk@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago This article is literally about how they tested 25 brands and zero of them passed privacy review. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) You can take public transportation. Oh wait, that requires governments to actually supply cities with useful and we'll organized public transportation and since you're probably in the US (the only country left that still uses the useless "miles" metric) and the US government has been bought up by (amongst others)car companies, there isn't any meaningful pyblxi transportation left. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] demlet@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) I can assure you that miles are quite useful for determining distance, I do it nearly every day. Other than that you're spot on. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) So are banana's but we don't use those either permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] demlet@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) How ironic. I guess you haven't been on Reddit in the past decade. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) 13 years Redditor, on average 2 posts and 20 comments per day. I was a power user there until the purge permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] demlet@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago So maybe you were joking and I didn't catch it? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] demlet@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) I can assure you that miles are quite useful for determining distance, I do it nearly every day. Other than that you're spot on. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) So are banana's but we don't use those either permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] demlet@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) How ironic. I guess you haven't been on Reddit in the past decade. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) 13 years Redditor, on average 2 posts and 20 comments per day. I was a power user there until the purge permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] demlet@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago So maybe you were joking and I didn't catch it? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) So are banana's but we don't use those either permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] demlet@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) How ironic. I guess you haven't been on Reddit in the past decade. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) 13 years Redditor, on average 2 posts and 20 comments per day. I was a power user there until the purge permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] demlet@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago So maybe you were joking and I didn't catch it? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] demlet@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) How ironic. I guess you haven't been on Reddit in the past decade. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) 13 years Redditor, on average 2 posts and 20 comments per day. I was a power user there until the purge permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] demlet@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago So maybe you were joking and I didn't catch it? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) 13 years Redditor, on average 2 posts and 20 comments per day. I was a power user there until the purge permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] demlet@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago So maybe you were joking and I didn't catch it? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] demlet@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago So maybe you were joking and I didn't catch it? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago That would've been possible when consumers had a choice but now it's too late. permalink fedilink source parent