That’s not what I am saying. Women and men can rise above those expectations. It’s called feminism.

No, it's not. It's called autonomy.

“men good, women bad”

Wrong. I never said nor implied anything like this.

You described an aspect of patriarchy as it effects both women’s expectations of men and men’s expectations of women.

It's an aspect of the patriarchy, but it stems from consumerism and greed.

you use terms that accurately describe the ideologies at work rather than the group itself.

Wrong. I'm telling you uncomfortable truths so you have to plug your ears and deny.

Because to do so builds stereotypes

No. Seeing their actions builds the stereotype. If they can't rise above other people's expectations, then it coincidentally reinforces the idea that they can't think for themselves.

In your case, you are stuck in the male patriarchal false consciousness that is clouding your ability to see that we are saying the same thing.

In your case, you're desperate to prove that "feminism is the solution and the patriarchy is the problem" when the real issue is greed and consumerism.

We can just agree to disagree here. If you're going to be pretentious and patronizing by saying "I agree but I don't understand the words being used," then just re-read this comment.

Not really. I'm referring to women enjoying the benefits they get from having others do the work for them.

Trying to argue that they can't enjoy this without some overarching control is just reinforcing the idea that women can't think for themselves.

Good job doing your part to reinforce the idea that women should be treated like children.

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Easy block.