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Why has the world started to mine coal again? (lemmy.ml)
submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml
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With climate change looming, it seems so completely backwards to go back to using it again.

Is it coal miners pushing to keep their jobs? Fear of nuclear power? Is purely politically motivated, or are there genuinely people who believe coal is clean?

Edit, I will admit I was ignorant to the usage of coal nowadays.

Now I'm more depressed than when I posted this

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[โ€“] 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I am quite sure i know a thing or two about politics that happened during my lifetime and i actively followed. Also i used to be a proponent for nuclear power when i was younger. But unlike the nuclear shills i am willing to accept when a technology is inferior and risky.

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  • [โ€“] -5 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    I am quite sure i know a thing or two about politics that happened during my lifetime and i actively followed

    Funny, so do I.

    Anyway, believe that "being pro nuclear in Europe means being pro Putin" or what ever absurd things you come up with.

    I was here to give my response to OPs question. Discussing energy politics with the average German is as pointless as discussing biology with an anti-vaxxer and I have no interest in it.

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  • [โ€“] 7 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Which is why you immediate derail the conversation by making ad himinen attacks, instead of interacting with the arguments... No suprise you cannot discuss things, because you don't want a discussion in the first place.

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  • [โ€“] -5 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    It's been discussed to death, check the most recent thread about Scholz's comment on !worldnews@lemmy.ml if you want to read through all of the discussion AGAIN.

    But you are right. I'm not willing to have a discussion about it with you. Just like I wouldn't want to have a discussion about astronomy with a flat earther.

    Your "nuclear = support russia" comment made it very clear where you stand on the issue and on what basis. So discussion is entirly pointless.

    But it wasn't really meant as a personal attack against you, if that comforts you. It's a systematic problem, just like my other comparisons.

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  • [โ€“] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    Germany was importing most of its uranium from Kazachstan through Russia. Even during the war and sanctions on other energy ressources taking effect, uranium was shipped, so the plants could keep running. Making our energy dependent on Russia, or trying to keep up the dependency, be it gas or uranium is heavily peddled by pro Putin shills. Funnily those are also often anti vaxxers and other consipracy theorists thanks to russian disinformation. So yes, peddling for more nuclear power remains peddling for Putin.

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  • [โ€“] -2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Or you could just make deals with Canada or Australia instead.

    The Russian supply problem is a very badly made up stawman if you think about it for more than 15 seconds.

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  • [โ€“] 4 points 2 years ago

    Sure, the Canadians just clap twice and the mines put out triple the Uranium they did before. It doesnt take years to expand mines or anything. Also the other sources in Niger or Mali are not at risk of needing replacement, since the region is super stable.. Oh wait shit, that supply is also at risk since there was a coup in Niger just 6 weeks ago.

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  • [+] -9 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Why are you pro-coal?

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  • [โ€“] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    i am pro renewables. It is the pro nuclear faction that tends to be pro coal too, just that they pretend they aren't. But it is the same businesses, the same industries and the same lobbying against renewables that unit pro coal and pro nuclear.

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  • [+] -10 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    If you are anti-nuclear you are pro-fossil fuels. 100% renewables is a pipedream that is pushed by the energy companies amongst sports ads with scenic pictures of windmills in the background, while you ignore the other 44% of energy generation.

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  • [โ€“] 5 points 2 years ago

    It is perfectly possible and necessary to go 100% renewables, interlocking sectors with systems such as hydrogen generation and physical and chemical power storages. But what do i know. I only studied energy systems.

    Meanwhile nuclear power is a threat to energy security, as less stable water supplies in the rivers the plants cool from forces them to lower energy output or even shut down fully, because there isn't enough water to cool them anymore.

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