▲ 37 ▼ (Alleged) Photo of the Flight 6 payload bay during reentry (forum.nasaspaceflight.com) submitted 2 years ago by llamacoffee@lemmy.world to c/spacex@sh.itjust.works 17 comments fedilink hide all child comments Image link from NSF forum. Originally leaked on X (I think), then posted to the SpaceXLounge subreddit by u/mehelponow
[+] pennomi@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) Yeah, the Spaceshuttle was a cautionary tale and the Ship doesn't seem to have a fundamentally different approach. But lets see how things will develop. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 8 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I don't think the shuttle is a good example at all. The reusability was just marketing shtick so a large enough vehicle could be built to launch multiple Hubble-chassis Keyhole satellites for the NSA. (It's probably more accurate to say the Hubble is built on a Keyhole satellite chassis). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yet the technology it used for the heat shield was very similar to what SpaceX is trying to do with the Ship. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] pennomi@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 years ago That would be pretty cool indeed. permalink fedilink source parent [–] psud@aussie.zone 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Shuttle was aluminium beneath the thermal tiles, so damage to the tiles was catastrophic. The expectation is Starship will be okay with a few tiles out, partly because steel is much more capable than aluminium, and partly because they have backup thermal protection permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sure, but there it a huge chasm between "catastrophic failure" and "looks good to go again next week", and even minor structural damage will prevent rapid resuse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] psud@aussie.zone 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'd much rather be on a spacecraft that wore out too soon than one that catastrophically failed permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 1 point 2 years ago Sure, but the rare catastrophic failure issue is not why the Spaceshuttle is widely considered an engineering failure. The real issue with it was that the re-usability of it turned out to be a huge money sink. Spaceship might face a similar fate with those heat-tiles. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) Yeah, the Spaceshuttle was a cautionary tale and the Ship doesn't seem to have a fundamentally different approach. But lets see how things will develop. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 8 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I don't think the shuttle is a good example at all. The reusability was just marketing shtick so a large enough vehicle could be built to launch multiple Hubble-chassis Keyhole satellites for the NSA. (It's probably more accurate to say the Hubble is built on a Keyhole satellite chassis). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yet the technology it used for the heat shield was very similar to what SpaceX is trying to do with the Ship. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] pennomi@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 years ago That would be pretty cool indeed. permalink fedilink source parent [–] psud@aussie.zone 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Shuttle was aluminium beneath the thermal tiles, so damage to the tiles was catastrophic. The expectation is Starship will be okay with a few tiles out, partly because steel is much more capable than aluminium, and partly because they have backup thermal protection permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sure, but there it a huge chasm between "catastrophic failure" and "looks good to go again next week", and even minor structural damage will prevent rapid resuse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] psud@aussie.zone 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'd much rather be on a spacecraft that wore out too soon than one that catastrophically failed permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 1 point 2 years ago Sure, but the rare catastrophic failure issue is not why the Spaceshuttle is widely considered an engineering failure. The real issue with it was that the re-usability of it turned out to be a huge money sink. Spaceship might face a similar fate with those heat-tiles. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 8 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I don't think the shuttle is a good example at all. The reusability was just marketing shtick so a large enough vehicle could be built to launch multiple Hubble-chassis Keyhole satellites for the NSA. (It's probably more accurate to say the Hubble is built on a Keyhole satellite chassis). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yet the technology it used for the heat shield was very similar to what SpaceX is trying to do with the Ship. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] pennomi@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 years ago That would be pretty cool indeed. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yet the technology it used for the heat shield was very similar to what SpaceX is trying to do with the Ship. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] pennomi@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 years ago That would be pretty cool indeed. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] pennomi@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 years ago That would be pretty cool indeed. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 years ago That would be pretty cool indeed. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] psud@aussie.zone 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Shuttle was aluminium beneath the thermal tiles, so damage to the tiles was catastrophic. The expectation is Starship will be okay with a few tiles out, partly because steel is much more capable than aluminium, and partly because they have backup thermal protection permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sure, but there it a huge chasm between "catastrophic failure" and "looks good to go again next week", and even minor structural damage will prevent rapid resuse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] psud@aussie.zone 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'd much rather be on a spacecraft that wore out too soon than one that catastrophically failed permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 1 point 2 years ago Sure, but the rare catastrophic failure issue is not why the Spaceshuttle is widely considered an engineering failure. The real issue with it was that the re-usability of it turned out to be a huge money sink. Spaceship might face a similar fate with those heat-tiles. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sure, but there it a huge chasm between "catastrophic failure" and "looks good to go again next week", and even minor structural damage will prevent rapid resuse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] psud@aussie.zone 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'd much rather be on a spacecraft that wore out too soon than one that catastrophically failed permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 1 point 2 years ago Sure, but the rare catastrophic failure issue is not why the Spaceshuttle is widely considered an engineering failure. The real issue with it was that the re-usability of it turned out to be a huge money sink. Spaceship might face a similar fate with those heat-tiles. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] psud@aussie.zone 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'd much rather be on a spacecraft that wore out too soon than one that catastrophically failed permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 1 point 2 years ago Sure, but the rare catastrophic failure issue is not why the Spaceshuttle is widely considered an engineering failure. The real issue with it was that the re-usability of it turned out to be a huge money sink. Spaceship might face a similar fate with those heat-tiles. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 1 point 2 years ago Sure, but the rare catastrophic failure issue is not why the Spaceshuttle is widely considered an engineering failure. The real issue with it was that the re-usability of it turned out to be a huge money sink. Spaceship might face a similar fate with those heat-tiles. permalink fedilink source parent