โฒ 710 โผ We are not the same (lemmy.world) submitted 2 years ago by byrtzr@lemmy.world to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world 159 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[โ] JATtho@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (6 children) Arch maintenance: 0. Install it once. (The proper way) Every 2 weeks minimum pacman -Syu Every 3 months merge/update configs in /etc. I don't get what is with this so hard? Yes, configs can be undecipherable but 90% time the merge involves just deleting the .pacnew versions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [โ] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 years ago (2 children) You say maintenance is 0 then list 2 things I don't have to do on Mint Remembering to bother with a CLI and configs is the hard part, on Mint I get a nice GUI with reminders that I have updates to things. You know, like it's some time past the year 2000? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [โ] kuberoot@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 years ago I think they were trying to make a 0-indexed list and fucked up the markdown, so install is just step 0. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] Petter1@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) You donโt have to update mint ๐ฎ? Well, you donโt have to update Arch, neither permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) on Mint I get a nice GUI with reminders that I have updates to things I don't have to do CLI or folder management to update was me point permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Petter1@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago One can argue that โinstall Arch properlyโ includes setting up a GUI button (like welcome window in endeavourOS) that triggers Pacman -Syu (or just yay) in the background outputting only warnings ๐ค permalink fedilink source parent [โ] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* The problem is that other 10% where I have to spend my time trawling the arch wiki to fix my OS instead of like... doing cool things on my computer. If that's what you enjoy that's great, but your hobby is not my hobby. I've used arch on several of my devices, it can be great! But there's this idea that arch is the perfect solution to pretty much everyone's desktop problems and it's crazymaking to see repeated over and over on here. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Running pacman every two weeks seems like a bad idea if you have a lot of packages... The dependencies can get dicey if you have to update too many at once. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] JATtho@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Well I meant two weeks is the longest period i can leave the system without updating and have no problems. And i have yet to break it with 300 pkgs updating at once. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 2 years ago I had about 600 yesterday after turning on an old laptop that hasn't been on in months... I just broke it down into two chunks, making sure to install the libraries and shit first to try to reduce possible dependency issues. Worked fine. Really, the worst time for me was when I had ~500 but did not realize that I did not have enough free space... I think I ended up just Time Shifting back after that one stopped me from booting. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] Aelis@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago* On EndavourOS here, I spent hours upon install tinkering and setting everything like I wanted and forgot most of what I did ever since. I'm so lazy I use a one word alias to update all my stuff in one go. I rarely have to bother myself reading and checking if everything's fine (I still do it from time to time just to be safe but I do it less and less because it's almost useless).. I even update a bit late sometimes and quite randomly in general. It's been almost 4 years like this now, nothing ever broke, had an issue with an Aur only once..never even had to tinker with anything. I remember having harder times with Ubuntu or Manjaro like a decade ago..even had freaking issues with Mint, it's crazy. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] Really_long_toes@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Yeah, I started on Ubuntu, got acclimated to Linux using it, went to mint, didn't give me what I wanted and just dove into arch, been running the same install for 8 years now and honestly don't want any more from my os... I also love my steam deck.. It runs arch BTW ๐ permalink fedilink source parent [โ] Petter1@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago I never touched /etc yet on my install ๐ permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 years ago (2 children) You say maintenance is 0 then list 2 things I don't have to do on Mint Remembering to bother with a CLI and configs is the hard part, on Mint I get a nice GUI with reminders that I have updates to things. You know, like it's some time past the year 2000? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [โ] kuberoot@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 years ago I think they were trying to make a 0-indexed list and fucked up the markdown, so install is just step 0. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] Petter1@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) You donโt have to update mint ๐ฎ? Well, you donโt have to update Arch, neither permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) on Mint I get a nice GUI with reminders that I have updates to things I don't have to do CLI or folder management to update was me point permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Petter1@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago One can argue that โinstall Arch properlyโ includes setting up a GUI button (like welcome window in endeavourOS) that triggers Pacman -Syu (or just yay) in the background outputting only warnings ๐ค permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] kuberoot@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 years ago I think they were trying to make a 0-indexed list and fucked up the markdown, so install is just step 0. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] Petter1@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) You donโt have to update mint ๐ฎ? Well, you donโt have to update Arch, neither permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) on Mint I get a nice GUI with reminders that I have updates to things I don't have to do CLI or folder management to update was me point permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Petter1@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago One can argue that โinstall Arch properlyโ includes setting up a GUI button (like welcome window in endeavourOS) that triggers Pacman -Syu (or just yay) in the background outputting only warnings ๐ค permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) on Mint I get a nice GUI with reminders that I have updates to things I don't have to do CLI or folder management to update was me point permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Petter1@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago One can argue that โinstall Arch properlyโ includes setting up a GUI button (like welcome window in endeavourOS) that triggers Pacman -Syu (or just yay) in the background outputting only warnings ๐ค permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] Petter1@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago One can argue that โinstall Arch properlyโ includes setting up a GUI button (like welcome window in endeavourOS) that triggers Pacman -Syu (or just yay) in the background outputting only warnings ๐ค permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* The problem is that other 10% where I have to spend my time trawling the arch wiki to fix my OS instead of like... doing cool things on my computer. If that's what you enjoy that's great, but your hobby is not my hobby. I've used arch on several of my devices, it can be great! But there's this idea that arch is the perfect solution to pretty much everyone's desktop problems and it's crazymaking to see repeated over and over on here. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Running pacman every two weeks seems like a bad idea if you have a lot of packages... The dependencies can get dicey if you have to update too many at once. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] JATtho@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Well I meant two weeks is the longest period i can leave the system without updating and have no problems. And i have yet to break it with 300 pkgs updating at once. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 2 years ago I had about 600 yesterday after turning on an old laptop that hasn't been on in months... I just broke it down into two chunks, making sure to install the libraries and shit first to try to reduce possible dependency issues. Worked fine. Really, the worst time for me was when I had ~500 but did not realize that I did not have enough free space... I think I ended up just Time Shifting back after that one stopped me from booting. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] JATtho@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Well I meant two weeks is the longest period i can leave the system without updating and have no problems. And i have yet to break it with 300 pkgs updating at once. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 2 years ago I had about 600 yesterday after turning on an old laptop that hasn't been on in months... I just broke it down into two chunks, making sure to install the libraries and shit first to try to reduce possible dependency issues. Worked fine. Really, the worst time for me was when I had ~500 but did not realize that I did not have enough free space... I think I ended up just Time Shifting back after that one stopped me from booting. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 2 years ago I had about 600 yesterday after turning on an old laptop that hasn't been on in months... I just broke it down into two chunks, making sure to install the libraries and shit first to try to reduce possible dependency issues. Worked fine. Really, the worst time for me was when I had ~500 but did not realize that I did not have enough free space... I think I ended up just Time Shifting back after that one stopped me from booting. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] Aelis@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago* On EndavourOS here, I spent hours upon install tinkering and setting everything like I wanted and forgot most of what I did ever since. I'm so lazy I use a one word alias to update all my stuff in one go. I rarely have to bother myself reading and checking if everything's fine (I still do it from time to time just to be safe but I do it less and less because it's almost useless).. I even update a bit late sometimes and quite randomly in general. It's been almost 4 years like this now, nothing ever broke, had an issue with an Aur only once..never even had to tinker with anything. I remember having harder times with Ubuntu or Manjaro like a decade ago..even had freaking issues with Mint, it's crazy. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] Really_long_toes@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Yeah, I started on Ubuntu, got acclimated to Linux using it, went to mint, didn't give me what I wanted and just dove into arch, been running the same install for 8 years now and honestly don't want any more from my os... I also love my steam deck.. It runs arch BTW ๐ permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] Petter1@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago I never touched /etc yet on my install ๐ permalink fedilink source parent
