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EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force (www.france24.com)
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Suck it micro USB, mini USB, and lightning! 🪫🔋

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[–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

lawsuits don't need to be reasonable just make filing the suit and then dragging it out as much as possible is effective enough.

Okay so firstly that's not true. If a lawsuit isn't reasonable it can be filed but it won't make it to court. The courts are backed up enough, they don't want their time wasting with irrelevant nonsense.

Secondly even if that was the case it wouldn't make any difference because you could also sue companies for not following rules.

Thirdly please look up the actual law. There's no requirement to use a particular port you simply have to include whatever the currently recommended standard is, if the recommended standard changes the law changes automatically without any lawmakers needing to do anything.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Okay so firstly that’s not true. If a lawsuit isn’t reasonable it can be filed but it won’t make it to court.

    yes it can and will. someone hasnt been paying attention to literally the entire trump presidency and general behavior of republican AGs i see. How much time was wasted in courts on the election steal nonsense. All you need is to find a judge who will hear the case and you can bribe one for that. Now obviously that example doesn't directly apply to the EU but im sure if i go looking I'll find examples of everything i've said in EU jurisdictions.

    Secondly even if that was the case it wouldn’t make any difference because you could also sue companies for not following rules.

    remember the issue here is the money that is wasted on lawyers and courts preventing low capital groups from getting traction. they literally wouldnt have the money to do that.

    The behavior i'm describing is a extremely well known strategy. It comes in a number of forms.

    Thirdly please look up the actual law. There’s no requirement to use a particular port you simply have to include whatever the currently recommended standard is

    I did look up the law and I'm aware of this. Please learn some ability to connect the dots. developing a new standard -> costs money. ensuring the new standard is interoperable with the old one such that it can do this -> costs money. low capital groups lack money. Therefor by definition there will be a chilling effect on new development due to this law.

    Finally, Im in favor of this law. I just don't deny the side effects it will have and how it'll potentially be abused by companies. The only way it doesnt have the effect I've described is if it carves out exceptions for individuals and small revenue companies.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Wow you are arrogant without any justification to be so.

    What the hell has your weird president got to do with European Union law. The United States isn't even affected by this law, Apple could if they wanted continue to use lightning cable in the United States. They won't of course because that doesn't make economic sense but that's not the European union's problem that's apples.

    In Europe you cannot sue someone just because you feel like it, the courts won't allow the case to go forward if it has no merit.

    The fact that you claim to have done research on this law is laughable, since you haven't even noticed what countries it applies to.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    okay champ, People dont need to go to your towns lake to know that its just as wet as their lake.

    literally took me 5 seconds to find that slapp problems still exist in the EU,just like i said it would. you know why? because as i explained to someone else there are two types of legal systems, ones that redress harms and ones that protect those in power by punishment. In the ones that redress harms (which is fairly debatable if these even exist) the legal system MUST allow the abuse I described to occur in some form.

    Its literally just a property of how legal systems must function. it doesn't matter what jurisdiction, or guardrails you've put in place. it will continue to happen because otherwise you don't have a legal system that actually allows harms to be addressed if you prevent people from making their case about the harm being done; and part of doing that is a discovery process, which costs a shit ton of money/time for the defendent.

    I was using trumps nonsense as a fucking example because its a shared contextual of the problem that even you in the EU (or anywhere) would have likely heard about, but you'd have to actually think for a second to see how it applies. Another trumpy example of this phenomena is not paying people for their work. which then requires them to sue him. which he'd then proceed to drag the process out as long as possible, again draining their financial resources while its just a fixed ongoing cost for him. there are a million ways to abuse the legal system effectively.

    but yes, I'm the arrogant one for actually knowing my shit vs you who apparently can't even make basic logical deductions and then gets in a tiff when its pointed out. shrug Now stop wasting peoples time with your nonsense.

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