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[–] 223 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Whenever he gets cheers and applause in a news comedy show, the host always looks uncomfortable. You can almost see the leash of their corporate overlords being tugged.

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  • [–] 175 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    I mean, it's not just that. it's legal liability. part of the reason they charged him with terrorism is to tie any show of support to a crime as well. supporting him is like supporting al-qaeda now. so I ask you, DO YOU CONDEMN HUMMUS? DO YOU CONDOM MORDOR OF CEOS?

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  • [–] 103 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    All it did was show a lot of people what bullshit a charge of "terrorism" is.

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  • [–] 52 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    For the longest time, people thought "terrorism" meant "very evil," so now that someone who isn't evil is being labeled a terrorist, they are upset.

    In reality, if you try to change politics with violence against a civilian, you are a terrorist.

    "One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter."

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    That's not what the law in NY actually says. It's not merely that you're trying to change government policy through violence. It's that you're trying to do it through intimidating government employees. The prosecutor screwed the pooch on this one. Luigi didn't actually meet the terrorism modifier requirements in NY. At least that's what I got from Legal Eagle.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Hopefully it's hard to prove that his intent was change and not revenge

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    You don't engrave a message on casings unless you're sending a message to the living.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    The company's other employees are, at time of writing, still living, so sending a message to the living doesn't mean it's not solely revenge.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I'm still like 100% sure that this isn't the same guy in the pictures taken on the crime scene, given that literally ALL THEY HAVE TO GO BY is that his form of dress was the same.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I think it's entirely plausible that it's the same guy, but he was tracked down through illegal means and the tip-off was faked. If so, it's reasonable to think that some or all of the physical evidence was planted in order to have something that would be admissible. If evidence was potentially planted, though, it can't be used as the basis for a guilty verdict, so even if Mangione did do it, there might not be enough evidence for a conviction.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago*

    You know. I’ve been having a hard time with both the official story and the that’s not the real shooter theory.

    Your theory is a third one I haven’t thought of before. He is the shooter but they faked how they found him to protect their secret surveillance capabilities from being reported on. Maybe illegal maybe not, but probably tech they don’t want the public knowing about.

    This actually sounds most plausible to me.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Yeah, this country was founded by terrorists.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I think they'd technically be classified as insurgents/rebels because they mostly/exclusively fired upon the military as far as I know.

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  • [–] 29 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Also, lets not forget who will be president soon.. Trump and his fellows have hinted at going after fake news media before. Going after terrorism supporting fake news media is even easier.

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  • [–] 29 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Also GOP: "We are all domestic terrorists"

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    For those who have forgotten, this is an actual quote from the republican party.

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/cpac-banner-domestic-terrorists/

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago

    Holy shit America is becoming united under the banner bof domestic terrorism. I wholeheartedly approve. If the ruling class isn't pissing themselves we haven't gone far enough yet. They should fear We the people.

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  • [–] 27 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    It is perfectly legal to advocate for illegal activity. The first amendment has broad protections for this. SCOTUS has ruled on this even recently. You need to be able to advocate for illegal activity if you want people to have any chance to change the law.

    It is perfectly legal to come right out on national television and say, "Luigi did nothing wrong. The president and governor should pardon him, and the mayor of NYC should throw him a parade."

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  • [–] 21 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    lol... those who remember the 2000s know that's all out the window if the government says anything is terrorism.

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  • [–] 25 points 2 years ago

    The right to free speech and the right to peaceably assemble hasn't been respected at any point during US history.

    Not immediately after the country was formed when they signed the sedition act into law.

    Not while people were protesting for abolitionism.

    Not while people were protesting for women's suffrage.

    Not while people held demonstrations while on strike.

    Not during the cold war and red scare.

    Not during the civil rights movement.

    Not during the George Floyd protests.

    They're not going to start now.

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  • [–] 26 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    It's also just the purview of the liberal elite. So rich and far removed from society they think murdering someone makes you evil and there's never any reason to do it.

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  • [–] 28 points 2 years ago*

    Meanwhile our media is absolutely jam packed with freedom fighters and underdogs and man against the system.. ultra gore.

    So like idk what message the elites have been getting out of the media but the really popular stuff is always the stuff that speaks to the masses.. and feels relatable.

    So sitcoms and… horror dystopia, yep.

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