▲ -33 ▼ Hey, new federated user from Hexbear here (hexbear.net) submitted 2 years ago by PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net to c/main@sh.itjust.works 95 comments fedilink hide all child comments Just curious how many of you are cool with this deeply racist image being the header for one of your comms
[+] sorrybookbroke@sh.itjust.works 26 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 99 points 2 years ago (1 child) china has outlawed depictions of whiney the poo https://www.shanghaidisneyresort.com/en/entertainment/theme-park/characters-meet-pooh/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 57 points 2 years ago That's actually a mislabeled image of Grinny the Goo, an unrelated character. also thought of Winnie the Pooh with Chinese Characteristics permalink fedilink source parent [–] booty@hexbear.net 63 points 2 years ago (2 children) the joke is that the authoritarian dictator of china has outlawed depictions of whiney the poo after chinease people started saying he looked like the character. Wow, that is a joke. It's not a very good joke. Who came up with it? (That literally never happened) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] blazera@kbin.social 20 points 2 years ago Xi Jinping did https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-china-blog-40627855 Also if this is about asian racism why is japans prime minister not represented by a yellow character? permalink fedilink source parent [–] sorrybookbroke@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) People have been jailed for this Edit: better links. Radio Free Asia can't really be trusted https://www.axios.com/2020/01/23/china-arrests-university-minnesota-twitter https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/china-student-arrested-xi-jinping/ https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-china-blog-40627855 For clarity, my first source: https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/tweets-01232020164342.html permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] btbt@hexbear.net 80 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Radio Free Asia cited permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sorrybookbroke@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 years ago (2 children) You are correct, that's a shit source. They've lied alot in the past, apologies for my failure here. Here are some better sources: https://www.axios.com/2020/01/23/china-arrests-university-minnesota-twitter https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/china-student-arrested-xi-jinping/ https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-china-blog-40627855 You truly have epicly owned me, with facts, and logic even. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] NormalC@hexbear.net 43 points 2 years ago* image in question Ah, so this is the person you're referring to. In that case, yeah his arrest was warranted. It turns out you can't just spread fatphobic and racist imagery around in American social media networks and not expect to eat shit. Posting three of the same headline piece is also meaningless, all three of them are obvious western sources. Your first post of RFA also ruined your credibility. We don't overlook that. The CPC take measures to prevent reactionary content from being proliferated. This is normal for a country. He was also only sentenced to 6 months, hardly life shattering. Meanwhile rabid disinformation campaigns in the US are facilitated or outright encouraged by standing political officials. permalink fedilink source parent [–] btbt@hexbear.net 37 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) You can refer to the picture in iridaniotter’s comment for evidence countering the assertion that Winnie the Pooh is not depicted within China in any capacity. As for your claims about Luo Daiqing, the Axios article cites a court document that is written entirely in Mandarin and a Twitter account that has been suspended, while the article on the Daily Dot relies on the Axios piece, so unless you’re able to read Mandarin, you posted a source who’s validity you and most other people here have no way of confirming because it validated what you already believed. For the record, I am assuming that Luo was arrested and sentenced for the reason Axios alleges they were out of good faith, but your apparent inability to vet the sources you link, which is evidenced by both what I talked about above and the fact that you initially posted nothing but an almost comically transparent propaganda piece, is troubling nonetheless permalink fedilink source parent [–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 50 points 2 years ago* (1 child) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Free_Asia_(Committee_for_a_Free_Asia) Your citation is CIA propaganda. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sorrybookbroke@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago* (1 child) You are correct, that's a shit source. They've lied alot in the past, apologies for my failure here. Here are some better sources: https://www.axios.com/2020/01/23/china-arrests-university-minnesota-twitter https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/china-student-arrested-xi-jinping/ https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-china-blog-40627855 Thank you for the correction permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago* (1 child) The first two articles are not about a ban on Winnie the Pooh in China which was the subject of the original claim, so I'll put a pin in that. Your BBC link isn't really a better source than RFA. Instead of a cutout it's just state media. And what's in that article is just a straight up lie. https://www.quora.com/Is-Winnie-the-Pooh-really-banned-in-China-or-is-it-Western-propaganda-Could-someone-living-in-China-answer-that-question You can talk to actual people in China. They can take photos with their cameras of the displays of licensed Disney products with Winnie the Pooh for sale. The idea that they banned Winnie the Pooh is cold war propaganda. And it can only be maintained in a bubble. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sorrybookbroke@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 years ago That is a quora link my dude, and is not a reasonable citation. Just some guy. To claim it's a lie with your proof being a random dude on quora, a site I frequent due to their insane conspiracy theories, nazi delusion and trump dick sucking, and obviously made up stories, is not convincing. You are correct though, the concept of winnie the pooh is not fully banned, just in refference to their authoritarian leader. As all critisism of their government is censored, or banned. Secondarily, these posts do speak on winnie the pooh. From the first article: Thirdly, I could give you a million links and they'd always be 'propaganda'. I need you to substantiate that for the BBC. Here's a few more: https://melmagazine.com/en-us/story/winnie-the-pooh-china-ban https://wikiless.org/wiki/Censorship_of_Winnie-the-Pooh_in_China?lang=en https://www.cnn.com/2017/07/18/asia/china-pooh-censor-trnd/index.html https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/07/china-reportedly-bans-disneys-winnie-the-pooh-film-after-xi-compariso.html https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/07/china-bans-winnie-the-pooh-film-to-stop-comparisons-to-president-xi https://www.npr.org/2023/03/23/1165504942/winnie-the-pooh-xi-jinping-china-film https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/south-park-banned-chinese-internet-critical-episode-1245783/ Lastly, I know many Chinese people, and talk to them frequently about this subject. The issue to you seems to be that I'm talking to the 'wrong' Chinese people. This 'if you just speak to these people' argument is never a convincing one. On either side, Chinese people arguing for or against either of our opinions on the subject does not provide proof for or against. Nearly half of Americans think that Joe Biden is a socialist. I hope we can agree that's dumb permalink fedilink source parent [–] booty@hexbear.net 42 points 2 years ago (1 child) No they haven't, you cited one of the most transparent sources of lies currently active on Earth. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] blazera@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago Wow i cannot get a single response from any of you guys. I take it ive hit an indefensible chord permalink fedilink source parent [–] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net [S] 39 points 2 years ago yes, I'm entirely ok with this. You can 'mark me down' as whatever you wish. Very well. I'll put you down as neutral on racism due to the nuanced take on the issue in your post permalink fedilink source parent
[–] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 99 points 2 years ago (1 child) china has outlawed depictions of whiney the poo https://www.shanghaidisneyresort.com/en/entertainment/theme-park/characters-meet-pooh/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 57 points 2 years ago That's actually a mislabeled image of Grinny the Goo, an unrelated character. also thought of Winnie the Pooh with Chinese Characteristics permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 57 points 2 years ago That's actually a mislabeled image of Grinny the Goo, an unrelated character. also thought of Winnie the Pooh with Chinese Characteristics permalink fedilink source parent
[–] booty@hexbear.net 63 points 2 years ago (2 children) the joke is that the authoritarian dictator of china has outlawed depictions of whiney the poo after chinease people started saying he looked like the character. Wow, that is a joke. It's not a very good joke. Who came up with it? (That literally never happened) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] blazera@kbin.social 20 points 2 years ago Xi Jinping did https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-china-blog-40627855 Also if this is about asian racism why is japans prime minister not represented by a yellow character? permalink fedilink source parent [–] sorrybookbroke@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) People have been jailed for this Edit: better links. Radio Free Asia can't really be trusted https://www.axios.com/2020/01/23/china-arrests-university-minnesota-twitter https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/china-student-arrested-xi-jinping/ https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-china-blog-40627855 For clarity, my first source: https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/tweets-01232020164342.html permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] btbt@hexbear.net 80 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Radio Free Asia cited permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sorrybookbroke@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 years ago (2 children) You are correct, that's a shit source. They've lied alot in the past, apologies for my failure here. Here are some better sources: https://www.axios.com/2020/01/23/china-arrests-university-minnesota-twitter https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/china-student-arrested-xi-jinping/ https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-china-blog-40627855 You truly have epicly owned me, with facts, and logic even. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] NormalC@hexbear.net 43 points 2 years ago* image in question Ah, so this is the person you're referring to. In that case, yeah his arrest was warranted. It turns out you can't just spread fatphobic and racist imagery around in American social media networks and not expect to eat shit. Posting three of the same headline piece is also meaningless, all three of them are obvious western sources. Your first post of RFA also ruined your credibility. We don't overlook that. The CPC take measures to prevent reactionary content from being proliferated. This is normal for a country. He was also only sentenced to 6 months, hardly life shattering. Meanwhile rabid disinformation campaigns in the US are facilitated or outright encouraged by standing political officials. permalink fedilink source parent [–] btbt@hexbear.net 37 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) You can refer to the picture in iridaniotter’s comment for evidence countering the assertion that Winnie the Pooh is not depicted within China in any capacity. As for your claims about Luo Daiqing, the Axios article cites a court document that is written entirely in Mandarin and a Twitter account that has been suspended, while the article on the Daily Dot relies on the Axios piece, so unless you’re able to read Mandarin, you posted a source who’s validity you and most other people here have no way of confirming because it validated what you already believed. For the record, I am assuming that Luo was arrested and sentenced for the reason Axios alleges they were out of good faith, but your apparent inability to vet the sources you link, which is evidenced by both what I talked about above and the fact that you initially posted nothing but an almost comically transparent propaganda piece, is troubling nonetheless permalink fedilink source parent [–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 50 points 2 years ago* (1 child) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Free_Asia_(Committee_for_a_Free_Asia) Your citation is CIA propaganda. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sorrybookbroke@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago* (1 child) You are correct, that's a shit source. They've lied alot in the past, apologies for my failure here. Here are some better sources: https://www.axios.com/2020/01/23/china-arrests-university-minnesota-twitter https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/china-student-arrested-xi-jinping/ https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-china-blog-40627855 Thank you for the correction permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago* (1 child) The first two articles are not about a ban on Winnie the Pooh in China which was the subject of the original claim, so I'll put a pin in that. Your BBC link isn't really a better source than RFA. Instead of a cutout it's just state media. And what's in that article is just a straight up lie. https://www.quora.com/Is-Winnie-the-Pooh-really-banned-in-China-or-is-it-Western-propaganda-Could-someone-living-in-China-answer-that-question You can talk to actual people in China. They can take photos with their cameras of the displays of licensed Disney products with Winnie the Pooh for sale. The idea that they banned Winnie the Pooh is cold war propaganda. And it can only be maintained in a bubble. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sorrybookbroke@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 years ago That is a quora link my dude, and is not a reasonable citation. Just some guy. To claim it's a lie with your proof being a random dude on quora, a site I frequent due to their insane conspiracy theories, nazi delusion and trump dick sucking, and obviously made up stories, is not convincing. You are correct though, the concept of winnie the pooh is not fully banned, just in refference to their authoritarian leader. As all critisism of their government is censored, or banned. Secondarily, these posts do speak on winnie the pooh. From the first article: Thirdly, I could give you a million links and they'd always be 'propaganda'. I need you to substantiate that for the BBC. Here's a few more: https://melmagazine.com/en-us/story/winnie-the-pooh-china-ban https://wikiless.org/wiki/Censorship_of_Winnie-the-Pooh_in_China?lang=en https://www.cnn.com/2017/07/18/asia/china-pooh-censor-trnd/index.html https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/07/china-reportedly-bans-disneys-winnie-the-pooh-film-after-xi-compariso.html https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/07/china-bans-winnie-the-pooh-film-to-stop-comparisons-to-president-xi https://www.npr.org/2023/03/23/1165504942/winnie-the-pooh-xi-jinping-china-film https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/south-park-banned-chinese-internet-critical-episode-1245783/ Lastly, I know many Chinese people, and talk to them frequently about this subject. The issue to you seems to be that I'm talking to the 'wrong' Chinese people. This 'if you just speak to these people' argument is never a convincing one. On either side, Chinese people arguing for or against either of our opinions on the subject does not provide proof for or against. Nearly half of Americans think that Joe Biden is a socialist. I hope we can agree that's dumb permalink fedilink source parent [–] booty@hexbear.net 42 points 2 years ago (1 child) No they haven't, you cited one of the most transparent sources of lies currently active on Earth. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] blazera@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago Wow i cannot get a single response from any of you guys. I take it ive hit an indefensible chord permalink fedilink source parent
[–] blazera@kbin.social 20 points 2 years ago Xi Jinping did https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-china-blog-40627855 Also if this is about asian racism why is japans prime minister not represented by a yellow character? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sorrybookbroke@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) People have been jailed for this Edit: better links. Radio Free Asia can't really be trusted https://www.axios.com/2020/01/23/china-arrests-university-minnesota-twitter https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/china-student-arrested-xi-jinping/ https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-china-blog-40627855 For clarity, my first source: https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/tweets-01232020164342.html permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] btbt@hexbear.net 80 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Radio Free Asia cited permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sorrybookbroke@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 years ago (2 children) You are correct, that's a shit source. They've lied alot in the past, apologies for my failure here. Here are some better sources: https://www.axios.com/2020/01/23/china-arrests-university-minnesota-twitter https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/china-student-arrested-xi-jinping/ https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-china-blog-40627855 You truly have epicly owned me, with facts, and logic even. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] NormalC@hexbear.net 43 points 2 years ago* image in question Ah, so this is the person you're referring to. In that case, yeah his arrest was warranted. It turns out you can't just spread fatphobic and racist imagery around in American social media networks and not expect to eat shit. Posting three of the same headline piece is also meaningless, all three of them are obvious western sources. Your first post of RFA also ruined your credibility. We don't overlook that. The CPC take measures to prevent reactionary content from being proliferated. This is normal for a country. He was also only sentenced to 6 months, hardly life shattering. Meanwhile rabid disinformation campaigns in the US are facilitated or outright encouraged by standing political officials. permalink fedilink source parent [–] btbt@hexbear.net 37 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) You can refer to the picture in iridaniotter’s comment for evidence countering the assertion that Winnie the Pooh is not depicted within China in any capacity. As for your claims about Luo Daiqing, the Axios article cites a court document that is written entirely in Mandarin and a Twitter account that has been suspended, while the article on the Daily Dot relies on the Axios piece, so unless you’re able to read Mandarin, you posted a source who’s validity you and most other people here have no way of confirming because it validated what you already believed. For the record, I am assuming that Luo was arrested and sentenced for the reason Axios alleges they were out of good faith, but your apparent inability to vet the sources you link, which is evidenced by both what I talked about above and the fact that you initially posted nothing but an almost comically transparent propaganda piece, is troubling nonetheless permalink fedilink source parent [–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 50 points 2 years ago* (1 child) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Free_Asia_(Committee_for_a_Free_Asia) Your citation is CIA propaganda. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sorrybookbroke@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago* (1 child) You are correct, that's a shit source. They've lied alot in the past, apologies for my failure here. Here are some better sources: https://www.axios.com/2020/01/23/china-arrests-university-minnesota-twitter https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/china-student-arrested-xi-jinping/ https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-china-blog-40627855 Thank you for the correction permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago* (1 child) The first two articles are not about a ban on Winnie the Pooh in China which was the subject of the original claim, so I'll put a pin in that. Your BBC link isn't really a better source than RFA. Instead of a cutout it's just state media. And what's in that article is just a straight up lie. https://www.quora.com/Is-Winnie-the-Pooh-really-banned-in-China-or-is-it-Western-propaganda-Could-someone-living-in-China-answer-that-question You can talk to actual people in China. They can take photos with their cameras of the displays of licensed Disney products with Winnie the Pooh for sale. The idea that they banned Winnie the Pooh is cold war propaganda. And it can only be maintained in a bubble. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sorrybookbroke@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 years ago That is a quora link my dude, and is not a reasonable citation. Just some guy. To claim it's a lie with your proof being a random dude on quora, a site I frequent due to their insane conspiracy theories, nazi delusion and trump dick sucking, and obviously made up stories, is not convincing. You are correct though, the concept of winnie the pooh is not fully banned, just in refference to their authoritarian leader. As all critisism of their government is censored, or banned. Secondarily, these posts do speak on winnie the pooh. From the first article: Thirdly, I could give you a million links and they'd always be 'propaganda'. I need you to substantiate that for the BBC. Here's a few more: https://melmagazine.com/en-us/story/winnie-the-pooh-china-ban https://wikiless.org/wiki/Censorship_of_Winnie-the-Pooh_in_China?lang=en https://www.cnn.com/2017/07/18/asia/china-pooh-censor-trnd/index.html https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/07/china-reportedly-bans-disneys-winnie-the-pooh-film-after-xi-compariso.html https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/07/china-bans-winnie-the-pooh-film-to-stop-comparisons-to-president-xi https://www.npr.org/2023/03/23/1165504942/winnie-the-pooh-xi-jinping-china-film https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/south-park-banned-chinese-internet-critical-episode-1245783/ Lastly, I know many Chinese people, and talk to them frequently about this subject. The issue to you seems to be that I'm talking to the 'wrong' Chinese people. This 'if you just speak to these people' argument is never a convincing one. On either side, Chinese people arguing for or against either of our opinions on the subject does not provide proof for or against. Nearly half of Americans think that Joe Biden is a socialist. I hope we can agree that's dumb permalink fedilink source parent [–] booty@hexbear.net 42 points 2 years ago (1 child) No they haven't, you cited one of the most transparent sources of lies currently active on Earth. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] blazera@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago Wow i cannot get a single response from any of you guys. I take it ive hit an indefensible chord permalink fedilink source parent
[–] btbt@hexbear.net 80 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Radio Free Asia cited permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sorrybookbroke@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 years ago (2 children) You are correct, that's a shit source. They've lied alot in the past, apologies for my failure here. Here are some better sources: https://www.axios.com/2020/01/23/china-arrests-university-minnesota-twitter https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/china-student-arrested-xi-jinping/ https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-china-blog-40627855 You truly have epicly owned me, with facts, and logic even. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] NormalC@hexbear.net 43 points 2 years ago* image in question Ah, so this is the person you're referring to. In that case, yeah his arrest was warranted. It turns out you can't just spread fatphobic and racist imagery around in American social media networks and not expect to eat shit. Posting three of the same headline piece is also meaningless, all three of them are obvious western sources. Your first post of RFA also ruined your credibility. We don't overlook that. The CPC take measures to prevent reactionary content from being proliferated. This is normal for a country. He was also only sentenced to 6 months, hardly life shattering. Meanwhile rabid disinformation campaigns in the US are facilitated or outright encouraged by standing political officials. permalink fedilink source parent [–] btbt@hexbear.net 37 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) You can refer to the picture in iridaniotter’s comment for evidence countering the assertion that Winnie the Pooh is not depicted within China in any capacity. As for your claims about Luo Daiqing, the Axios article cites a court document that is written entirely in Mandarin and a Twitter account that has been suspended, while the article on the Daily Dot relies on the Axios piece, so unless you’re able to read Mandarin, you posted a source who’s validity you and most other people here have no way of confirming because it validated what you already believed. For the record, I am assuming that Luo was arrested and sentenced for the reason Axios alleges they were out of good faith, but your apparent inability to vet the sources you link, which is evidenced by both what I talked about above and the fact that you initially posted nothing but an almost comically transparent propaganda piece, is troubling nonetheless permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sorrybookbroke@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 years ago (2 children) You are correct, that's a shit source. They've lied alot in the past, apologies for my failure here. Here are some better sources: https://www.axios.com/2020/01/23/china-arrests-university-minnesota-twitter https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/china-student-arrested-xi-jinping/ https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-china-blog-40627855 You truly have epicly owned me, with facts, and logic even. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] NormalC@hexbear.net 43 points 2 years ago* image in question Ah, so this is the person you're referring to. In that case, yeah his arrest was warranted. It turns out you can't just spread fatphobic and racist imagery around in American social media networks and not expect to eat shit. Posting three of the same headline piece is also meaningless, all three of them are obvious western sources. Your first post of RFA also ruined your credibility. We don't overlook that. The CPC take measures to prevent reactionary content from being proliferated. This is normal for a country. He was also only sentenced to 6 months, hardly life shattering. Meanwhile rabid disinformation campaigns in the US are facilitated or outright encouraged by standing political officials. permalink fedilink source parent [–] btbt@hexbear.net 37 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) You can refer to the picture in iridaniotter’s comment for evidence countering the assertion that Winnie the Pooh is not depicted within China in any capacity. As for your claims about Luo Daiqing, the Axios article cites a court document that is written entirely in Mandarin and a Twitter account that has been suspended, while the article on the Daily Dot relies on the Axios piece, so unless you’re able to read Mandarin, you posted a source who’s validity you and most other people here have no way of confirming because it validated what you already believed. For the record, I am assuming that Luo was arrested and sentenced for the reason Axios alleges they were out of good faith, but your apparent inability to vet the sources you link, which is evidenced by both what I talked about above and the fact that you initially posted nothing but an almost comically transparent propaganda piece, is troubling nonetheless permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NormalC@hexbear.net 43 points 2 years ago* image in question Ah, so this is the person you're referring to. In that case, yeah his arrest was warranted. It turns out you can't just spread fatphobic and racist imagery around in American social media networks and not expect to eat shit. Posting three of the same headline piece is also meaningless, all three of them are obvious western sources. Your first post of RFA also ruined your credibility. We don't overlook that. The CPC take measures to prevent reactionary content from being proliferated. This is normal for a country. He was also only sentenced to 6 months, hardly life shattering. Meanwhile rabid disinformation campaigns in the US are facilitated or outright encouraged by standing political officials. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] btbt@hexbear.net 37 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) You can refer to the picture in iridaniotter’s comment for evidence countering the assertion that Winnie the Pooh is not depicted within China in any capacity. As for your claims about Luo Daiqing, the Axios article cites a court document that is written entirely in Mandarin and a Twitter account that has been suspended, while the article on the Daily Dot relies on the Axios piece, so unless you’re able to read Mandarin, you posted a source who’s validity you and most other people here have no way of confirming because it validated what you already believed. For the record, I am assuming that Luo was arrested and sentenced for the reason Axios alleges they were out of good faith, but your apparent inability to vet the sources you link, which is evidenced by both what I talked about above and the fact that you initially posted nothing but an almost comically transparent propaganda piece, is troubling nonetheless permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 50 points 2 years ago* (1 child) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Free_Asia_(Committee_for_a_Free_Asia) Your citation is CIA propaganda. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sorrybookbroke@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago* (1 child) You are correct, that's a shit source. They've lied alot in the past, apologies for my failure here. Here are some better sources: https://www.axios.com/2020/01/23/china-arrests-university-minnesota-twitter https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/china-student-arrested-xi-jinping/ https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-china-blog-40627855 Thank you for the correction permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago* (1 child) The first two articles are not about a ban on Winnie the Pooh in China which was the subject of the original claim, so I'll put a pin in that. Your BBC link isn't really a better source than RFA. Instead of a cutout it's just state media. And what's in that article is just a straight up lie. https://www.quora.com/Is-Winnie-the-Pooh-really-banned-in-China-or-is-it-Western-propaganda-Could-someone-living-in-China-answer-that-question You can talk to actual people in China. They can take photos with their cameras of the displays of licensed Disney products with Winnie the Pooh for sale. The idea that they banned Winnie the Pooh is cold war propaganda. And it can only be maintained in a bubble. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sorrybookbroke@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 years ago That is a quora link my dude, and is not a reasonable citation. Just some guy. To claim it's a lie with your proof being a random dude on quora, a site I frequent due to their insane conspiracy theories, nazi delusion and trump dick sucking, and obviously made up stories, is not convincing. You are correct though, the concept of winnie the pooh is not fully banned, just in refference to their authoritarian leader. As all critisism of their government is censored, or banned. Secondarily, these posts do speak on winnie the pooh. From the first article: Thirdly, I could give you a million links and they'd always be 'propaganda'. I need you to substantiate that for the BBC. Here's a few more: https://melmagazine.com/en-us/story/winnie-the-pooh-china-ban https://wikiless.org/wiki/Censorship_of_Winnie-the-Pooh_in_China?lang=en https://www.cnn.com/2017/07/18/asia/china-pooh-censor-trnd/index.html https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/07/china-reportedly-bans-disneys-winnie-the-pooh-film-after-xi-compariso.html https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/07/china-bans-winnie-the-pooh-film-to-stop-comparisons-to-president-xi https://www.npr.org/2023/03/23/1165504942/winnie-the-pooh-xi-jinping-china-film https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/south-park-banned-chinese-internet-critical-episode-1245783/ Lastly, I know many Chinese people, and talk to them frequently about this subject. The issue to you seems to be that I'm talking to the 'wrong' Chinese people. This 'if you just speak to these people' argument is never a convincing one. On either side, Chinese people arguing for or against either of our opinions on the subject does not provide proof for or against. Nearly half of Americans think that Joe Biden is a socialist. I hope we can agree that's dumb permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sorrybookbroke@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago* (1 child) You are correct, that's a shit source. They've lied alot in the past, apologies for my failure here. Here are some better sources: https://www.axios.com/2020/01/23/china-arrests-university-minnesota-twitter https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/china-student-arrested-xi-jinping/ https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-china-blog-40627855 Thank you for the correction permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago* (1 child) The first two articles are not about a ban on Winnie the Pooh in China which was the subject of the original claim, so I'll put a pin in that. Your BBC link isn't really a better source than RFA. Instead of a cutout it's just state media. And what's in that article is just a straight up lie. https://www.quora.com/Is-Winnie-the-Pooh-really-banned-in-China-or-is-it-Western-propaganda-Could-someone-living-in-China-answer-that-question You can talk to actual people in China. They can take photos with their cameras of the displays of licensed Disney products with Winnie the Pooh for sale. The idea that they banned Winnie the Pooh is cold war propaganda. And it can only be maintained in a bubble. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sorrybookbroke@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 years ago That is a quora link my dude, and is not a reasonable citation. Just some guy. To claim it's a lie with your proof being a random dude on quora, a site I frequent due to their insane conspiracy theories, nazi delusion and trump dick sucking, and obviously made up stories, is not convincing. You are correct though, the concept of winnie the pooh is not fully banned, just in refference to their authoritarian leader. As all critisism of their government is censored, or banned. Secondarily, these posts do speak on winnie the pooh. From the first article: Thirdly, I could give you a million links and they'd always be 'propaganda'. I need you to substantiate that for the BBC. Here's a few more: https://melmagazine.com/en-us/story/winnie-the-pooh-china-ban https://wikiless.org/wiki/Censorship_of_Winnie-the-Pooh_in_China?lang=en https://www.cnn.com/2017/07/18/asia/china-pooh-censor-trnd/index.html https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/07/china-reportedly-bans-disneys-winnie-the-pooh-film-after-xi-compariso.html https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/07/china-bans-winnie-the-pooh-film-to-stop-comparisons-to-president-xi https://www.npr.org/2023/03/23/1165504942/winnie-the-pooh-xi-jinping-china-film https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/south-park-banned-chinese-internet-critical-episode-1245783/ Lastly, I know many Chinese people, and talk to them frequently about this subject. The issue to you seems to be that I'm talking to the 'wrong' Chinese people. This 'if you just speak to these people' argument is never a convincing one. On either side, Chinese people arguing for or against either of our opinions on the subject does not provide proof for or against. Nearly half of Americans think that Joe Biden is a socialist. I hope we can agree that's dumb permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago* (1 child) The first two articles are not about a ban on Winnie the Pooh in China which was the subject of the original claim, so I'll put a pin in that. Your BBC link isn't really a better source than RFA. Instead of a cutout it's just state media. And what's in that article is just a straight up lie. https://www.quora.com/Is-Winnie-the-Pooh-really-banned-in-China-or-is-it-Western-propaganda-Could-someone-living-in-China-answer-that-question You can talk to actual people in China. They can take photos with their cameras of the displays of licensed Disney products with Winnie the Pooh for sale. The idea that they banned Winnie the Pooh is cold war propaganda. And it can only be maintained in a bubble. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sorrybookbroke@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 years ago That is a quora link my dude, and is not a reasonable citation. Just some guy. To claim it's a lie with your proof being a random dude on quora, a site I frequent due to their insane conspiracy theories, nazi delusion and trump dick sucking, and obviously made up stories, is not convincing. You are correct though, the concept of winnie the pooh is not fully banned, just in refference to their authoritarian leader. As all critisism of their government is censored, or banned. Secondarily, these posts do speak on winnie the pooh. From the first article: Thirdly, I could give you a million links and they'd always be 'propaganda'. I need you to substantiate that for the BBC. Here's a few more: https://melmagazine.com/en-us/story/winnie-the-pooh-china-ban https://wikiless.org/wiki/Censorship_of_Winnie-the-Pooh_in_China?lang=en https://www.cnn.com/2017/07/18/asia/china-pooh-censor-trnd/index.html https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/07/china-reportedly-bans-disneys-winnie-the-pooh-film-after-xi-compariso.html https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/07/china-bans-winnie-the-pooh-film-to-stop-comparisons-to-president-xi https://www.npr.org/2023/03/23/1165504942/winnie-the-pooh-xi-jinping-china-film https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/south-park-banned-chinese-internet-critical-episode-1245783/ Lastly, I know many Chinese people, and talk to them frequently about this subject. The issue to you seems to be that I'm talking to the 'wrong' Chinese people. This 'if you just speak to these people' argument is never a convincing one. On either side, Chinese people arguing for or against either of our opinions on the subject does not provide proof for or against. Nearly half of Americans think that Joe Biden is a socialist. I hope we can agree that's dumb permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sorrybookbroke@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 years ago That is a quora link my dude, and is not a reasonable citation. Just some guy. To claim it's a lie with your proof being a random dude on quora, a site I frequent due to their insane conspiracy theories, nazi delusion and trump dick sucking, and obviously made up stories, is not convincing. You are correct though, the concept of winnie the pooh is not fully banned, just in refference to their authoritarian leader. As all critisism of their government is censored, or banned. Secondarily, these posts do speak on winnie the pooh. From the first article: Thirdly, I could give you a million links and they'd always be 'propaganda'. I need you to substantiate that for the BBC. Here's a few more: https://melmagazine.com/en-us/story/winnie-the-pooh-china-ban https://wikiless.org/wiki/Censorship_of_Winnie-the-Pooh_in_China?lang=en https://www.cnn.com/2017/07/18/asia/china-pooh-censor-trnd/index.html https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/07/china-reportedly-bans-disneys-winnie-the-pooh-film-after-xi-compariso.html https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/07/china-bans-winnie-the-pooh-film-to-stop-comparisons-to-president-xi https://www.npr.org/2023/03/23/1165504942/winnie-the-pooh-xi-jinping-china-film https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/south-park-banned-chinese-internet-critical-episode-1245783/ Lastly, I know many Chinese people, and talk to them frequently about this subject. The issue to you seems to be that I'm talking to the 'wrong' Chinese people. This 'if you just speak to these people' argument is never a convincing one. On either side, Chinese people arguing for or against either of our opinions on the subject does not provide proof for or against. Nearly half of Americans think that Joe Biden is a socialist. I hope we can agree that's dumb permalink fedilink source parent
[–] booty@hexbear.net 42 points 2 years ago (1 child) No they haven't, you cited one of the most transparent sources of lies currently active on Earth. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] blazera@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago Wow i cannot get a single response from any of you guys. I take it ive hit an indefensible chord permalink fedilink source parent
[–] blazera@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago Wow i cannot get a single response from any of you guys. I take it ive hit an indefensible chord permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net [S] 39 points 2 years ago yes, I'm entirely ok with this. You can 'mark me down' as whatever you wish. Very well. I'll put you down as neutral on racism due to the nuanced take on the issue in your post permalink fedilink source parent