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Hey, new federated user from Hexbear here (hexbear.net)
submitted 2 years ago by to c/main@sh.itjust.works
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Just curious how many of you are cool with this deeply racist image being the header for one of your comms

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[–] 65 points 2 years ago (1 child)

I'm okay with it because it's not racist. What is there in this picture to not be okay with?

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  • [–] [S] 44 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    The racism

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  • [–] 46 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    What racism? You have yet to explain what's racist about this picture. I am willing to accept that I'm wrong and I'm just not seeing it from the right perspective, but you have to be willing to explain why rather than just condemn.

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  • [–] [S] 56 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    You don't see why tinting an Asian person's skin yellow is racist? Would you say the same thing about this?

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  • [–] 35 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Alright, I can see that. Not deliberate, as they also tinted his suit red to heighten the comparison to Winnie the Pooh, who also has a yellow face, but I can see your perspective now you've actually given it. Deeply racist is absolutely a stretch, though, but "kinda racist" is absolutely correct.

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  • [–] [S] 36 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Oh well as long as you're absolutely sure the obvious racism wasn't deliberate it's okay

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  • [–] 39 points 2 years ago* (3 children)

    It's not obvious! You posted a picture of a dictator with accidental racist undertones, called it deeply racist, and condemned anyone who didn't agree with your perspective as racist, despite not actually giving your perspective! To most of us, we see "dictator" before we see "asian guy". You're not attacking the picture, you're attacking the people on the same server as the picture. You being so quick to condemn makes it look like you're defending a dictator more than amending injustice, and being so hesitant to explain your reasoning makes you look like a troll more than an activist.

    You're a terrible representative of your own argument.

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  • [–] 31 points 2 years ago

    To most of us, we see "dictator" before we see "asian guy". You're not attacking the picture.

    Damn you just didn't "see" the racism so therefore it cannot be problematic. But since President Xi is a "dictator" that must mean that people who are calling me out for racism must be the ones at fault because they're protecting a big evil man. Most people "agree" with you so therefore it must be "not racist".

    I can tell you never worked through dismantling racist imagery that wasn't spoon fed to you by a 24/7 news entertainment cycle.

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  • [–] [S] 29 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    But now that I've given you my perspective, you unequivocally condemn this racism, yes?

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  • [–] 31 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I condemn you, actually. Yes, the picture is poorly thought out and needs revision, even though it was designed for reasons other than racism. That's what you should have said. But you didn't want to fix the picture, you wanted to condemn everyone on this site for not condemning the picture.

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  • [–] 38 points 2 years ago

    What a contemptible piece of shit instance we got federated with this time. Fuck this place. Look at this asshole. Acting all fucking wounded because they weren't coddled during the agonizingly slow process of them finally admitting that putting a world leader representing over a billion people in yellow face MIGHT be SLIGHTLY racist ON ACCIDENT. As if the feelings of the person committing the offense are the most important consideration in explaining their offense to them. The fucking entitlement.

    I don't buy your bullshit. It's not only racist, it's deliberately racist and not only that but deep down you fucking know it as well. Just ask yourself: what's the fucking point of the caricature in the first place? To be insulting, right? It's an otherwise beloved childhood character though, isn't it? So why has the west latched onto it so strongly? To mock his appearance, right? It's a yellow fucking cartoon bear. Why are you acting coy about it? It's not about his weight. It's not that he has the facial features of a bear. No one makes pictures depicting him as Yogi or Baloo. It's his race.

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  • [–] [S] 37 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Well ideally, everyone here would agree this is problematic. But instead a whole bunch of people jumped in to defend it to the death

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    They jumped in to defend themselves. That's what happens when you attack them. If you attack the thing and not the people, they don't get so defensive.

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  • [–] 46 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    No one attacked anyone. OP asked how many of you were cool with this image. All you have to do is say "actually no, that image is fucked up" and suddenly you're not under attack. In order to interpret this post as anything remotely similar to an attack on your character, you have to first decide that you're cool with racism.

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  • [–] [S] 43 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Interesting that people here are interpreting an attack on racism as an attack on them personally. Wonder why that is

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  • [–] 21 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    You didn't attack racism. You attacked people because there was racism nearby. Anyone who asked for an explanation was then called racist. You attacked people personally.

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  • [–] [S] 35 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I'm sure you're going to go now and make sure that there is no longer any racism around you to confuse people

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Not really. It wasn't really a possibility until you came along. I'm just going to do something more productive with my time than talking to you. It'll be good for me, mentally.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    We accept that this image can be interpreted as racist, if one is unaware of the origin and original meaning of said image.

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  • [–] [S] 33 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Gotcha. Another for pro-racism. Man, y'all love this stuff over here

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    See, this is why I condemn you.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    You say this, and yet you are still ignoring the other racist parts in this image. almost like you don't care about the racism, and only picked one aspect about the image that was racist for the sake of having the moral high ground.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 years ago*

    That’s a reach lolol. Did Pooh Bear put you up to this? Promise a bump on your social credit score if you’d go online and say anyone that calls Xi Winnie the Pooh is racist?

    It’s not yellow because he’s Asian you raging edgelord, it’s cause he’s Pooh Bear, and Winnie the Pooh is yellow.

    Go back to licking your authoritarian, human rights abusing quasi-dictator’s boots ya fop.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Winni the Pooh is yellow...

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  • [–] [S] 58 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    And Xi Jinping, a Chinese man, is not. Perhaps this will help you understand the issue

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