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About

Welcome to !discuss@discuss.online! This community is intended as a place for thoughtful discussion to happen, and this post will attempt to explain the goals of the community and how it's intended to work.

This is community is intended to be a place to slow down and think a bit before responding. If you see something interesting, talk about it! Substantive doesn't have to mean "deeply researched and cited" (though that's always appreciated, of course), but please avoid low-effort and joke responses. Ideally, you'll come away from here better for the time spent. The general discuss.online posting guidelines have some more guidance as well. Here's a slightly adapted version as well, for convenience:

Try to create interesting discussion. The best conversation brings a fresh perspective. Substantive comments are expected particularly for contentious topics.

Practice the Principle of Charity. Seek out common ground, and assume the best of others. Inquire, don't attack.

Humor is fine, but avoid low-effort common joke responses.

Don't test boundaries, that's not what the community is for. Consider yourself an honored guest, and respect the mods as people with lives.

Much of the Hacker News Guidelines are relevant as well, if you'd like additional guidelines.

What to Post

Post anything you find interesting! This community is intended to have a very wide focus, so anything from a cool new physics discovery to a deep dive into the hardware for an obsolete gaming console. The only real offtopic items would be political news. This isn't a community for "Politician does Bad Thing!", but "Here's a history of Bad Thing and how Politician works into it" might be appropriate

Moderation

Please downvote posts that won't do a good job of promoting interesting discussion. Please do not downvote posts just as a reaction to the title. If you repeatedly downvote without commenting, or participate (even once) in downvote brigading, you may be given a temp ban from the community, but:

Don't take it personally

Lemmy's moderation tools are lacking in this regard, so consider a temp ban a friendly "Please slow your roll". If you feel that you were wrongly banned or have any other questions, please join us at #online.discuss:discuss.online, we're a friendly bunch! Please do not DM anybody in response as that can easily come across as harassment, even if not intended that way.

This is a tiny community and not one oriented towards growth. If it ever grows big enough that the above moderation policies cause issues in the wider Fediverse, it will be revisited.

And finally, link to post image on Wikimedia commons:

Woman with wax tablets and stylus (so-called "Sappho")

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Saw over at https://discuss.online/post/41716184 and thought it'd be good to post the interactive site here

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I'm interested in seeing how this goes. Competitor to bandcamp, co-operatively owned. Here's the origin story:

Origin Story

Subvert began with a question.

In March 2022, Bandcamp was sold to Epic Games. A year and a half later, it was sold again to Songtradr, which laid off half the staff including most of the union's bargaining team.

The question was simple: what if artists and workers collectively owned the platform?

That question became an essay called "A Collectively Owned Bandcamp Successor," published online with a sign-up form and a plan. The proposal was specific. A music marketplace owned by the people who use it. One vote per member. Profits flowing back to the community rather than out of it.

The response was bigger than expected. Thousands of artists, labels, and supporters signed up in the first weeks. Co-op law specialists, platform researchers, and people who had previously worked on cooperative platform projects came together to build the structure. Funders aligned with the vision provided early support, including fellowships from IDEO and the Center for Cultural Innovation in 2024.

Subvert Cooperative LCA was incorporated in October 2024, alongside the release of the first edition of our zine. Members began joining immediately. By October 2025, the co-op had 10,000 members and the platform entered a private alpha. By April 2026, membership had grown past 20,000. In May 2026, the platform opened to the public. The first Annual General Meeting is scheduled for July 2026.

Subvert exists because the stewardship of a critical piece of cultural infrastructure is too important to not be treated as a commons. That has been the project from the first essay onward.

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The advertisement in question

Support Lemmy development

An open source project the size of Lemmy needs constant work to manage the project, implement new features and fix bugs. Dessalines and Nutomic work full-time on these tasks and more. As there is no advertising or tracking, all of our work is funded through donations. Even so there is barely enough time in the day, and no time for a second job. The only available option are user donations. To keep it viable donations need to reach a minimum of 5000€ per month, resulting in a modest salary of 2500€ per developer. If that goal is reached we can stop worrying about money, and fully focus on improving the software for the benefit of all users and instances. We especially rely on recurring donations to secure the long-term development and make Lemmy the best it can be.

If you want more information before donating, consider the comparison with Reddit. It began as startup funded by rich investors. The site is managed by corporate executives who over time have become more and more disconnected from normal users. Their main goal is to make investors happy and to make a profit. This leads to user-hostile decisions like firing the employee responsible for AMAs, blocking third-party apps and more. As Reddit is a single website under a single authority, it means all users need to follow the same rules, including ridiculous ones like censoring the name "Luigi".

Lemmy represents a new type of social media which is the complete opposite of Reddit. It is split across many different websites, each with its own rules, and managed by normal people who actually care about the users. There is no company and no profit motive. Much of the work is carried out by volunteer admins, mods and posters, who contribute out of enthusiasm and not for money. For users this is great as there is no advertising nor tracking, and no chance of takeover by a billionaire. Additionally there are no builtin political or ideological restrictions. You can use the software for any purpose you like, add your own restrictions or scrutinize its inner workings. Lemmy truly belongs to everyone.

Nutomic and Dessalines, Lemmy Developers

There are reasons for this, but I am focusing here on the impact that it has upon the recipients.

Zero mention of PieFed, Mbin, Sublinks, or for that matter, the operating costs of Discuss.Online. This ad is not promoting the "Fediverse/Threadiverse", but instead funding the political messaging and curation of content on the Lemmy.ml instance, with some portion also going to development of additional software features. We are not told how much, but seeing the rather large number of entries in the modlog on that instance those curation and posting activities done by those asking for funding definitely do not take zero time. Note that the developers have refused to provide a means to fund only the software without also funding the lemmy.ml instance.

I have used PieFed for a year and never once seen anything remotely like this. I used to use Kbin before it forked into Mbin and again never saw anything remotely similar. The operating costs of DO are real and valid - and if the message had been for that purpose then I would have been fine with it. There are many many ways to fund development of the Threadiverse, and most of them do not require platforming messages that routinely call for the literal murder of everyone living in a Western civilization - a topic that has been discussed in great depth pretty much everywhere across the Threadiverse so let's avoid going deeper into it here and instead I will just point anyone interested to !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works and leave it at that.

I did not appreciate seeing this 3-page advertisement (given the font size used, I had to scroll down almost exactly 3 pages worth to get to any other content). New users fleeing corporate enshittified social media will not appreciate it either. Thank you for letting me vent. There are many possibilities for a solution - including modifications to the Lemmy sourcecode as it runs on DO machines to remove this "feature" (while leaving other more opt-in calls for donations in place), and I am aware that I can click the prominent X button to make it go away (although nowadays the advertisement comes back when I revisit the page? it did not used to behave like that, but now it does for some reason, at least for me?) - but chiefly here I was focused on the poor look that it gives us. This is yet one more reason why I am being driven away from using Lemmy, as it enshittifies for the sake of its own profit, even if to a vastly reduced degree compared to corporate social media, and even if those profits are reinvested into the extremely dubious "benefit" of running by far the most controversial and contested instance across the Threadiverse.

Please remember the community guidelines prior to responding.

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Linear types proposal for Hare (yerinalexey.srht.site)
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Don't Get Distracted (calebhearth.com)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBdBoWAtLNI

I’m going to tell you about how I took a job building software to kill people.

But don’t get distracted by that; I didn’t know at the time.

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