Man. The guy can grow peanuts, build thousands of houses, kick cancer's ass, and is brilliantly insightful.

No wonder he lost reelection. He's competent. I'm kinda shocked he won in the first place. We didn't deserve him, and we still don't.

My point is that the "piss in the car" comment was mean, thoughtless, and added nothing. If grandpa is incontinent, then he'll wear diapers regardless of the car or the bus.

Your comment was either a.) implying that messing themselves in public was better than in relative privacy, or b.) if you use a car, grandpa doesn't get to wear Depends.

Take your pick.

It might not be what you meant, but you were too busy being a jerk to notice that it's what you said.

In the doctor scenario, we've had adult diapers for a long time. Your solution is you let them pee in your car?

And your solution is they shit themselves on public transportation?

I mean, I'm 100% for better public transportation and urban centers designed around walking, but let's compare apples to apples here.

They didn't make a straw man argument, they had a point. It's a genuine issue and they deserve better than a flippant remark telling them to make grandpa wear diapers so he can piss himself on his walk from the bus stop.

Actually, this problem is why I stopped using Jerboa. It's really weird. Of course, like an asshole, I never bothered to ask about it ornfile a bug report, because I'm a bad person.

I use Eternity now, and I like it a lot.

Huh. Now that you mention it, all the linux-focused manufacturers seem to be using Nvidia for dedicated graphics. That is so weird.

It looks nice, the specs are great, and I want one, but seriously... Nvidia? Why?

I don't want to be rude, but recommending Arch to a newbie who wants to dip their toe in is just mean. Why not tell them to set up an OpenBSD desktop while they're at it.

And the laptop they're using is from 2015. Why would you need the latest drivers for that?

To be fair, Fedora has opt-in telemetry. It's 100% anonymized, though, and helps with development. I always say yes when I'm running a beta (like now).

That having been said, you should always check the privacy policies of any given distro. They tend to all be pretty up front about it (kinda hard to lie about it when anyone can check your source code...).

AFAIK, though, neither Mint nor Elementary collect telemetry by default, although they might have opt-in like Fedora. Both are based on Ubuntu LTS, but they also both scrape out so much stuff that they're devoid of most of the Canonical junk.

You know, I had a big long thing about my local grocery store obfuscating the peanut butter, but I deleted it. I think I'm just gonna let this one go.

Look, dude, I think we probably caught each other at a bad time or something. I'm not generally this confrontational, and I kinda doubt you are either. I'm sorry I dragged it out so far, and I'm sorry I responded the way I did to your expression of frustration.

I'll try to be better. Have a great day, yeah?

It's not obfuscated if it takes less than a minute to find the answer, dude.

I liked it better the old way, but the feature isn't hidden.

ETA: My point is you don't get to complain when people reflect back the energy you put out.

Yes. It is. And so was doing a big complainy rant without doing any research.

Again: if you want polite discourse, you have to open with that, not rant and get mad about it later. You set the standard, I just went along with it.

TL;DR: Don't lay this one on me, buddy. You walked in here looking for a fight.

I didn't much care for the direction you started in. If you wanted an actual discussion, then opening with hostility and claims that could be refuted if you'd bothered with less than a minute of research is the wrong way to go.

If you want a civilized discussion, you have to start with a civilized post. My responses have been no more hostile than your opening salvo.

As it happens, Google's influence over Mozilla is of massive concern to me. And I agree that the change was not needed. But it's not obscure, it's not hard to find out how to do what you wanted to do, and your hostility to responses suggesting DuckDuckGo only confirmed my suspicion that you didn't want an answer, you wanted a fight.

So I gave you one.

Here's the deal. If you walk into a place with guns blazing, you don't get to act all surprised and indignant when someone fires back.