[–] 2 points 3 years ago

Our Gonzalite friend is wrong about an number of things, but there is real criticism to be made about Deng radically increasing poverty by undercutting the systems installed under Mao that brought poverty to low levels. The "Chinese miracle" was in many respects solving problems that it itself caused and is a sort of liberal historical revisionism, though of course the more contemporary extreme poverty eradication initiative made real headway that was not made under Mao.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 years ago

    You're failing to understand that the interest of "tankies" is in democracy being enforced by a proletarian control of the state. The copypastas you were getting were poor communication but they had a point.

    The fact that you're comfortably arguing in parallel with blatant neoliberals should give you pause, or are you going to tell me they are less of a concern because they are not "authoritarian," because when people are richer than God and control immense swaths of production and politicians themselves while skirting regulation to fuck over the workers their class made desperate by enclosing the commons, that is not "authoritarian"? This whole thing seems kind of bankrupt to me as far as political theory goes. The mechanisms of control are diffused by various means into the economy and divided among the public/private sector, but if the private sector owns the public sector (and it does) you've got a class of kings who only half-pretend they aren't (Zuck deliberately getting that Caesar haircut is a tell).

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  • [–] [S] 6 points 3 years ago

    Perfectly fair, but I specify in the second paragraph:

    Specifically, do you have any criticisms of China’s contemporary culture? Its government? What are they?

    I was talking about the government in the economic case.

    Basically just give me anything that you can be persuaded to talk about

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    Hello! I would like to start off by apologizing because I know a thread like this gets posted every other day and it can border on (or actually be) concern-trolling, but I wanted to get a rough survey of opinions here on a topic.

    Specifically, do you have any criticisms of China's contemporary culture? Its government? What are they?

    I'm of the opinion that there are a lot of low-hanging fruit in this regard, like the patriarchal social order that [whatever one might say about its status in other nations] is certainly an ongoing problem for the matter of women's liberation. I also think it's both socially backwards and bad for national security to not have gay marriage, because we're all familiar with how the US loves infiltrating student movements.

    I also rather regret how the CPC seems to be trending towards expanding the role of the profit motive rather than shrinking it. See these statements:

    http://en.qstheory.cn/2023-05/04/c_882761.htm

    http://en.qstheory.cn/2023-05/05/c_882998.htm

    Do you agree with these points? Do you have your own criticisms? Am I totally off-base? Let me know!

    (btw I'm also familiar with the idea of sharing criticism with comrades but finding public criticism to be counter-productive, but I don't want to spend all day listing caveats)

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