Sneaking in a work from home day could soon be a bit trickier thanks to a new update coming to Microsoft Outlook.

The email provider is rolling out a new feature that will allow users to spot which of their co-workers or colleagues is currently in the office, and therefore possibly free for a quick meeting or able to reply to a message.

The update will use the Work Hours and Location information stored within Outlook to offer up this information, meaning there may be some awkward conversations if your colleagues believe you to be in the office.

In its entry in the Microsoft 365 roadmap, the company notes that the feature will be "always on", meaning there may be no getting around what it represents as your office presence.

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[–] 188 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Wouldn't your coworkers already know you're working from home by, you know not seeing you at the office?

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  • [–] 129 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    When I worked in an office, most of my team was in other offices across the world. But we had to be in the office for that TEAM BUILDING

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  • [–] 39 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    > Go to the office

    > All meetings are on teams because half the team works on other offices.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago

    Even if the whole team is actually in the conference room…it’s one dude with a laptop who struggles to get the display working for 10 min then proceeds to just read the PowerPoint out loud.

    None of this required me putting on pants or being part of traffic.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    If your company is nationwide and has offices all over the country and you work on a distributed team where some people are on the west coast, some are central, and some are on the east coast. In this such event, none of your teammates will physically be able to tell if you are in the office. That’s what this feature is for.

    So we can all continue to work from home, from a prescribed office of our employers choosing.

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  • [–] 28 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Ahhh the gigantic benefit of seeing a cubicle in the background of your zoom. Thanks Microsoft

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    My “office” is a network of interconnected multi-story buildings. It’s actually really convenient for me to know if I need to go meet someone in person or just use video.

    Sometimes we have a room booked ahead of time and I learn they are wfh when I get to the empty room.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    That's just poor common courtesy by your coworker. If you have a physical room booked and they are WFH they need to tell you so you don't waste your time. You shouldn't be relying on teams status

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    [–] 67 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Boy I hate MS, and I hate Outlook, and MS Teams, and offices, and companies, and work..

    Yet, I'm failing to understand what I'm supposed to be angry about here, can someone help?

    From what I understand, you set the work hours and people will know if you're working or not based on that..? It doesn't sound too controversial to me.

    Do people stay home without telling anyone and they wont be able to do that anymore? Or what?

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  • [–] 30 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    It very clearly says it'll be using your work hours and location information. MS is turning your hardware into a GPS tracker for your company.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I am in the middle of trying to get e911 functional for Teams direct route calls, based of lis data, my Teams can't correctly determine the state I am in, much less my current address. It took multiple tickets to get our corporate headquarters to show up correctly instead of an address a half-mile away.

    I forsee getting a lot of tickets from this feature.

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  • [–] 55 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    It's already started for me today. Teams now snitches on those who are remote and there's no way to shut it off. My status is no longer just "Available", it's now "Available, Out of office". Fuck Microsoft!

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  • [–] 24 points 2 years ago

    This is because you’ve accepted a meeting that happens at a location not in the building; for example, someone else’s PTO reminder that they’ve invited you to. Decline that invitation, and you’re fine.

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  • [+] 42 points 2 years ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child)
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    [–] 33 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Outlook will soon know if you're properly dressed for work while you're WFH in case you're not. They will detect pink pixels on your camera. They will detect gurgling noises, thuds, clapping noises, spitting, long wave vibrations such as fun chair bouncing and short wave vibrations such as clipping your hair sounds. The future is worthless! I mean endless!

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    [–] 27 points 2 years ago

    Complete nothing burger

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Interesting. Teams has been doing this for a few years now, so I assume it's the same functionality just transferred over to Outlook (which has been going through a massive overhaul recently). For anyone in an MS-based company with Teams being actively used, this is not a new thing.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    How does Teams give away your location? I've used it extensively, but I've never seen someone's location unless the enter it manually.

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  • [–] 21 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    It can be turned on by the IT dept in a large office. It has a different icon for in office network connection vs not. Not every IT dept uses it. Some treat other employees like adults, for instance.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    And this is why I haven't installed Teams on my personal computer. If it was less invasive, I would, but it's just potential bossware masquerading as "productivity tools."

    That shit stays on my work computer, and I just VPN into it.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago

    And your VPN connection to work knows your endpoint...

    Interestingly, there's another way of finding out if your coworker is in the office


    just walk over to their desk.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Your M365 admin can already tell by your IP address. Just like they know when you're looking at porn when your IP randomly hops states for a little while.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Who be looking at porn on the work PC lol. For me I have to give a ' reason' to disconnect form the work VPN. I do do anything on work PC besides work tbh

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  • [–] 22 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Yeah, never use a work device for anything you're not actually getting paid to do. To do otherwise is just stupid. Save non-work stuff for your own devices.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I use my personal computer as a work PC. But I run a VM for the work stuff. It's great.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago

    Look. You are incapable of doing work anywhere but the office. Your collaborations severely lack. Somehow tho, when the executive class spends 10 hours in email it's innovation. When you do it, you're unproductive.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago

    OK, easy solution: don't open outlook.

    Most of the time that I'm in the office, my laptop is closed anyways, you know, for collaboration.

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