I like the framing that NATO is a military. It is marching towards Russia, just like the Third Reich, just like Napoleon. The difference this time is that NATO isn't fighting each country it marches through. It "negotiates" with them, tells them if they don't let NATO in then Russia will get them, tells them they have to fund it.

Like any good shake down, NATO occasionally launches wars of aggression to make these "negotiations" easier because of the "implication". Sometimes when a target country isn't amenable, the country suddenly finds a right-wing uprising and coup on its doorstep and then suddenly the country becomes more amenable to NATO. Sometimes, the right-wingers are funded and they win elections without the need for a coup and they support NATO.

But from a strategic perspective, there is no difference in threat to Russia whether the military marching across Europe towards the Ukrainian border is Napoleonic cavalry, Third Reich armor, or NATO nukes.

All you have to do is listen to Putin and Lavrov. There's a reason their true words are never presented in western media. Putin has been singing the same tune on NATO, the US, and Russia's desired place in the world since 2008 at least. Lavrov as well. Their requests have been clear and unchanging. The US and NATO on the other hand have escalated at every opportunity.

Right? But libs are still all "Sovereign states do what they want, they're not Russia's backyard, they can join whatever alliances they want!!!". And libs in Russia go even further with "Well they're right to want to fight us! Because putler! Evil sovok! Authoritarianism!!!"

Edit: oh look, they are doing exactly this in this very thread!

In the minds of these people "diplomacy" is literally just "we always get our way".

It works until it doesn't.

Commies can't fool me, Russia bad! Me smart! 😎 🧠

Lol 😂 China should do it or perhaps Russia.

dont forget mexico bombing the US communities within its border, aiming to force them to abandon their culture (burgers and english language, idk?), after conducting a coup because they didnt like the pro-US democratically elected leader.

If mexicans/canadians did half of what ukraine has done, they wouldnt exist anymore

Yeah this is one of the reasons I have little hope for Canada making any sort of meaningful changes at this point in time. We are moving hard right very very fast but even if a communist movement got momentum here I don’t know how we’d survive.