submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by to c/3dprinting@lemmy.world
 

Please, use adequate ventilation (with a heat exchanger if you need to keep A/C in the room) if you're going to be resin printing inside. I don't want to see all of you guys get cancer from this hobby.

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[–] 88 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Fuck this video. Dude claims it’s killing you and offers zero reason as to why or how. Pure clickbait bullshit here folks

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  • [–] 40 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Also leads with "It's not clickbait", then it is clickbait. Really the peak of modern Youtube scum.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    To be fair, this is kind of the environment YouTube have cultivated over the years, intentionally or otherwise

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    To be fair, YouTube cultivated this environment because their users respond to it. If users stopped clicking on clearly-clickbait videos, YT would stop pushing them, and creators would stop making them.

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  • [+] 29 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)
  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I'd love to have understood any of your funny words magic man.. eli5?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    What is "sensibilization" and why is it not a good thing?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    They mean sensitization. It's where you react more strongly to exposure the more you're exposed. It's a problem for a couple of reasons. The scary one is some people move along the reaction continuum from "mildly annoying" to "oh shit call an ambulance" pretty fast. It's not common but it happens. I actually have a condition that predisposes me to that so I always carry an epi-pen. Good times.

    The more mundane one is, even with controls to remove fumes and PPE to avoid them, it's not uncommon to still be exposed to a small degree, especially in a hobbyist setting. Let's imagine you're lax on avoiding exposure and become sensitized due to prolonged and/or heavy exposure, so you set up proper controls to try to avoid it. Now the small amount of remaining exposure which may have never been a problem with proper controls may actually become a problem. Now you can't work with that material at all without having some sort of reaction.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    Did you actually watch the video?

    He literally presents a list of reasons around 5:12. Then he goes on to describe how formaldehyde already affects him.

    Resin priting can be a lot of fun, but he's correct: that shit is toxic. It needs to be respected, and he's also correct in pointing out the carbon filter on many printers is basically a placebo for the consumer.

    Still don't believe him? Fine. Go checkout the small book that is the set of warnings with this stuff from a resin producer: https://entropyresins.com/safety/epoxy-safety-tips/

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 2 years ago* (4 children)

    He mentions VOCs within the resin, just because you can't wrap your head around why inhaling "volatile organic compounds" can be bad for you, does not mean it's wrong. Take proper precautions to ventilate the area while printing resin, please.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    You know volatile just means it readily evaporates, right?

    Alcohol is a volatile organic compound.

    Nothing about the term 'volatile organic compound' means dangerous. You need more information.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    Oh, we're supposed to read the manuals before handling chemicals now?!

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I'll check the manuals after mixing up this sweet bleach and ammonia cleaning spray.

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    [–] 23 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Explain what you mean by use heat exchangers?

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Yeah the term "heat exchanger" describes a lot of things.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    Yep, it's basically a simple air-to-air heat exchanger. Applicable to any hobby that will generally put fine particulate matter into the air. Laser cutting, woodworking, etc. Generally an overall good thing to have for a shop.

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 2 years ago

    It's essentially a heat/cooling recovery unit so you're not simply pumping your A/C out into the world and wasting energy. It allows you to swap the air in a room out, without losing its cool/heat by simply pumping in outside air. The video explains what he used.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago (3 children)
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    [–] 15 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Even if you're printing with anything but PLA, you should be ventilating well, since it obviously releases chemicals into the air -- you can smell it. PLA does as well, but from the smell it seems like a much different one.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    PLA is used for medical implants, because it breaks down into lactic acid inside the body, so it's almost certainly safe.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago

    He explains why the carbon filters don't work, how he mitigated the problem and he really suits up.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    What is the correct way to ventilate the 3D printers? How can you ensure accidental contact with resin won't ruin your life?

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 2 years ago*

    The correct way is basically this: Get a ventilation fan, and exhaust the air around the resin printer to the outside of your home. Learn proper safety procedures, with correct nitrile gloves, and VOC-rated respirator and use that to ensure you don't get resin on your skin. Resin print in the garage if possible. Resin likes warmer temperatures anyhow, it helps the chemical reaction occur. Make sure this ventilation fan is AT the window, because you don't want any of the pressurized air to leak back into your living space. You want it to suck air out of the room and vent it outside.

    An upgraded system is going to cost more, but if you're in an air conditioned area - it will save you air conditioning costs. You need a heat recovery ventilator, and typically that will come with 2 blower fans, this isn't absolutely necessary but would be the "correct" way to do it. I'd opt for this if you're resin printing inside your home office and it's going to be a permanent thing, or if you're running lots of resin printers at once.

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