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[–] 229 points 2 years ago (2 children)

cutting head count without “firing” people. standard capitalism bullshit.

stop using amazon. let it rot.

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  • [–] 118 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    It's easy to avoid buying things from Amazon. It's hard to avoid AWS. It would be insane to try to suss out what provider everyone that I buy stuff from uses, and their third party relationships. Regulation is better.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago

    In the old days people used to have their own servers...

    And you can still buy them...

    And the cloud really isn't cheaper...

    But whatever, it's ubiquitous today. Maybe someday people will wake the F up.

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  • [–] 32 points 2 years ago (2 children)
  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    That links says only a quarter did it because they wanted people to quit, so it suggests that chances are this is not the reason Amazon is doing it...and you're posting while claiming it factually proves this is their motivation? Pretty deceiving.

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  • [–] 129 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    I enjoy how Amazon talks a big game about how great they are for the environment and their pledge to stop climate change, then they force workers to commute to the office who have been happily doing their jobs over the internet.

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  • [–] 63 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Yah this is literally the most basic shit any company can do to be more "green", cut costs, have access to a larger worker base...

    Nope. Because the CEOs are all more concerned with the commercial real estate market than running their company efficiently.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Because the CEOs are all more concerned with the commercial real estate market than running their company efficiently.

    It's shocking how many people have honestly bought this. I mean, I'm sure there is some truth to it and maybe somewhere, someone forced people to come back because of some real estate interests... But the CEO of Amazon almost certainly gains to benefit much more from a rise in price of Amazon stock than any real estate they might own. And even if it was the case, I dont think the board would be very happy about it.

    It might be the wrong move, and maybe it is being done to get people to quit, but it's being done because they think it means more money from Amazon.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I think they are mostly doing this as a stealth layoff. It's been a pretty popular strategy lately.

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  • [–] [S] 69 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    The employees hired during full remote are now going to have to change their lives around going into the office. Tech employees are especially fucked because they either have to stay or they have to attempt to join the flood of tech employees looking for remote jobs (which was caused by the execs doing layoffs at tech companies).

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  • [–] 60 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    There should be protections against hiring someone remote and then forcing them into the office as soon as you want to lay people off by forcing them to quit so you don't have to compensate them.

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  • In some countries, there are already.

    In others, it will be up to courts to decide whether this is illegally firing staff. That said, good luck getting equal legal representation to these trillion-dollar companies.

    So yes, basically, it's legal.

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    [–] 45 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    The beatings will continue until moral improves.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    God I hate Amazon now. They're basically Wal-Mart these days with half the results being sponsored (advertisements) - and you see that even if you pay for Prime. There are some things you can only get there, but otherwise, since all e-commerce is converging, I don't see the point of enabling their bad behavior. But whichever global corporate enterprise you take your business to, they will likely have a similar mindset.

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  • [–] 38 points 2 years ago

    Fuck Amazon.

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  • [–] 34 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Trying to make those yearly office space rentals worth it

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  • [–] 25 points 2 years ago

    Ok, but I'm still not going back to wearing pants.

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  • [–] 24 points 2 years ago

    They should be charged an emissions tax and worker safety tax since driving to/from work is one of the leading causes of death for working adults

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Seems like covid's overall impact on society won't be as long lived as we thought. The whole work from home thing was almost seen as revolutionary as it would save office space and expenses. But it seems companies care far more for control than even profit.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 years ago* (5 children)

    Cool, glad I didn't listen to my parents, who wanted me to work for Amazon. Yeah, I probably could've made a ton more, but I'm making plenty where I'm at.

    I work 2x in office, less if I have a somewhat passable reason to not go in. And I can WFH for a few weeks at a time if I need to travel for whatever reason. It's nice working for someone that somewhat respects me.

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    [–] 17 points 2 years ago

    That's gonna be a no, dawg.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago*

    Generally? That's bad leadership.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago* (5 children)

    Maybe somebody has some insight into this: why does this succeed in getting people to quit, since that's the obvious gambit? Why do people not just refuse to come back and get fired for insubordination or whatever? Do you not get unemployment benefits for getting fired for that reason (ignoring that unemployment is a pittance compared to their salaries), or are they packaging these people out with attractive severances or something?

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Honestly, IDK. My company is moving their office slightly further away from me. This will add much more commute time because of the location though. I'm already looking for a new job but if I don't find one by then I'm certainly not going in. We worked 100% remote for over 3 years. I'll find out what the consequences are.

    My situation will be a bit different though since the office location is moving. Seems unreasonable that they'd be able to deny unemployment because of that.

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    [–] 9 points 2 years ago

    Wasn't there talk of a mass strike in the U.S., at some point? We should do that.

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