Employees at some Chinese ministries must stop using iPhones before the end of September.

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[–] 72 points 2 years ago (1 child)

Of course it is, for the Chinese. Listen, if it isn't a homegrown tech product, it's a threat to your national security, and even most of the homegrown ones are, regardless of what nation you're from or in. This is fact.

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    [–] 63 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    This seems like a logical step, both as a political counter move to the US limiting Huawei and TikTok, and as an actual security measure. If the Chinese state can get intel from Huawei devices, surely the US can get intel from iphones. I'm surprised they didn't include Microsoft.

    Edit: a word.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Probably too difficult logistically to forbid Microsoft

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Well that and MS is like a national champion in China. MS is one of the few companies to follow Chinese law and thus, Bing is the only foreign search engine allowed. MS is what China is hoping every other foreign company will emulate. So yeah, no way China is going to go after MS.

    *Edit. Heck, MS is expanding in China even amidst the tech war because they love China so much.

    https://nypost.com/2022/09/29/microsoft-faces-us-scrutiny-as-it-nears-10000-employees-in-china/

    If anything USA should be banning MS for national security issues.

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  • [–] 56 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    USA: let's ban Huawei
    China:

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    [–] 43 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I mean it's not like you'd catch a US government official carrying around a Huawei phone either - fair is fair.

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  • [–] 36 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Of course they pose a national security risk. Imagine your government officials walking around with devices fully capable of recording bodily activities, location, sound, video, and transmit it to a foreign power, with or without the wearer's knowledge. 🤯

    Then add the ability of third party powers to use Israel's NSO spying capabilities for these devices.

    The moment I could replace these devices with my own home-grown ones, I would. If anything, it's surprising it took them this long. Maybe they thought they had enough control over Apple.

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  • [–] 21 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Imagine your government officials walking around with devices fully capable of recording bodily activities, location, sound, video, and transmit it to a foreign power, with or without the wearer’s knowledge.

    They don't have to imagine it. They are actively DOING it with TikTok! Then there's the not so small matter of all the spying that Huwaei was doing using their 5G network equipment.

    Here's another one: Have you read the articles about Mozilla reporting what a privacy nightmare today's cars are? China has banned Teslas from being parked in our around their Government Offices and Military bases. Today's cars, especially EVs, are absolutely loaded with high end spy tech. Video recording in optical and non-optical wavelengths, audio recording, gps positioning, radar and ultrasound systems, remote control of those systems, remote data access to those systems...

    Since China banned Tesla's cars from being parked in sensitive locations what do you think they are doing with their auto brands such as BYD?

    Everyone is spying on each other like mad.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Haven't read Mozilla's report but I'm in the field and am fully aware. What I can tell you is that at least some of the Motown manufacturers are very privacy oriented at least for now.

    Huawei is an unmitigated disaster. Security analyses of their equipment from some years ago showed hundreds of security holes on a single piece of infrastructure networking equipment. Countless vulnerable copies of OpenSSL, you name it. Even if they didn't have any backdoors, the equipment was such a Swiss cheese that you could enter it from many of the gaping holes. The only reason we use it is cost, making the moneys for the shareholders.

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  • [–] 26 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Buy stock in Huawei, got it.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    Huawei is not a publicly traded company. It's a private company wholly owned by its employees.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 years ago*

    iPhones pose a risk to the National Security Agencies’ ability to spy on the citizens

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  • [–] 19 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    They’ll still have no problem manufacturing them, though.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Isn’t apple shifting to production in Inda?

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  • [–] 18 points 2 years ago

    If the US can do it, so can China. But, of course, both suck (iPhone and Huawei).

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  • [–] 15 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I mean... I don't doubt that any cell phone is.

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    [–] 14 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Nice move, China. Right then, let's start drafting the tit-for-tat regulations right away.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago

    China isn't exactly happy with the US government right now due to the sanctions imposed over advanced chip technology, and this move could be viewed as part of a an ongoing reaction to that. So far, Micron has been the main target for retaliation. The US government already imposes its own restrictions on Chinese hardware and services. Notable, Huawei equipment is banned and TikTok can't be installed on government devices.

    Already did. This is the tit-for-tat regulation. America did cause, and China did effect.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Any US technology has NSA backdoors. I'm surprised it took them this long to realize, since they do the same thing.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    “Made in China”

    Looks like Apple will soon go shopping for a new sweatshop

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