cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/19628702

image transcriptscreenshot of this bluesky post (which you can read without logging in here) from ‪@comraderobot.bsky.social‬ ("Notorious RBMK") saying:

my friend who still lives in palo alto gave me permission to share this mailer he got.

there’s unhinged and then there’s tech unhinged

image in post has two photos of people wearing EEG electrodes, one xray of a human head, an EEG data plot over a silhouette of a head, and this text:

REM sleep is the next Al

The upcoming era of physical reality integrated with dream worlds advanced by the REMspace startup

  • Controlling a smart home from dreams
  • Transferring speech from dreams
  • Controlling virtual cars from dreams
  • Interacting with dream worlds using brain implants
  • Social media for sharing dream journals
  • Smart sleep masks powered by Al
  • Many other breakthroughs from our lab (videos and tech)

Don't miss the pitch of the year for potential partners and investors

Aug 29th Palo Alto

Above the image is an (inaccurate) BlueSky label saying "Possible tumblr screenshot" with a "hide" button.

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the guy behind this startup:

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[–] 89 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Even if all of that worked, why would I want it?

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  • [–] 108 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    You don't want it.

    But the people who can put ads on your dreams want it.

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  • [–] 22 points 2 years ago

    Does anyone else remember Microsoft's amazingly tone deaf slide deck about how integrating their systems and making thing seamless across multiple platforms including mobile phones and laptops would allow people to work during any/every spare moment in their lives, like while commuting?

    Businesses want to own every moment of your life not strictly required for continued existence. If they can normalize using sleep time for extra "passive" income by using your dream power or by just renting out "spare" brain computation power, they will.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    CEO: "Did you know that people can do basic work during REM? And they won't even feel like they have worked after waking up. We can boost employee productivity by 40%!!"

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    You really don't have any interest in controlling virtual cars with your dreams? That alone has me signing up as an investor.

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  • [–] 28 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I sort of already do. It's called dreaming about driving a car.

    I think these folks forgot that random dreams play an important role in information processing. I'd rather not mess with that too much.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago

    Yeah, that'll go great when the car is suddenly driving 14 miles down the driveway of the house I lived at as a child - a driveway that is walkable in less than a minute - before entering the garage which is a large house that slightly resembles a place I used to work and has a view over a clock tower that may or may not be larger when you look at it from a different angle and I think I'll nap in this bed that's here.

    Now tell me: Where is the car relative to its position when that five-second-long dream sequence began, and will that pedestrian ever walk again?

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    [–] 51 points 2 years ago* (3 children)

    Tbh, if it were possible to record dreams or reliably trigger vivid lucid dreams, that could be one of the most significant breakthroughs in the history of art, recreation, and psychology. The fact that some startup is trying to grift on the idea with IoT/gig economy bullshit doesn't change that.

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    [–] 38 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I saw the tagline and thought it meant that REM sleep is the next big thing people invest in because sleep is good for your health so they're selling solutions to boost your sleep quality

    Boy was I wrong

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  • [–] 35 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    Oh, so they can't get autonomous driving to work, thus the next step is to get people who are sleeping to steer the cars remotely

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    [–] 34 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    This is just the game "Hypnospace Outlaw"

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Or the original plot of The Matrix, before the studio execs decided audiences were too stupid.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    I mean, to be fair, they were.

    What started as an allegory for the path of a trans person realizing they're trans and taking "the red pill" to find the reality of their world and escape "the Matrix" that forces them into a confined box in which they don't actually fit...

    ...turned into the dumbest bro'd out bullshit from people who think the "red pill" means you're the strongest smartest man who is has figured out society and you're a superman like Neo who can fly and shit.

    Honestly, I'm on the side of executives on this one. Most people are too fucking stupid for it.

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    [–] 19 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I guess people with mind blindness or blurry minds will be fucked out of luck on this tech, huh?

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  • [–] 18 points 2 years ago

    HypnOS 2025 looks insane

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Yeah, I totally want a copy of the dream I had last night where someone stole my motor scooter and I was chasing them around a parking lot

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    They know that sleep isn't wasted time, right?

    Your brain uses sleep and dreams to integrate memories and learning.

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    [–] 13 points 2 years ago

    Oh nice, I can control my smart home by dreams?

    Me: *sleeps Coffee machine starts making coffee. Me: *sleeps

    Can't wait!

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Possible Tumblr screenshot

    What? Why does that need a special notice? Why is that relevant at all?

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    These guys are so behind the curve. I've already interacted with Dream worlds countless times using this little-known hack called "dreaming." Look it up, you won't be disappointed.

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    [–] 11 points 2 years ago

    Jesus, that's some real desperate idiots there.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago

    This has to be a joke

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Better sleep would actually improve people's lives rather than just making it worse.

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    [–] 9 points 2 years ago

    So will people pay to have Nicolas Cage in their dreams, or will they pay to not have him in their dreams?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dream_Scenario

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    It just occurred to me how similar AI images are to dreams, always related to the prompt, but never quite how a conscious brain would imagine it. All the weird, illegible text, the grotesque bodies, etc. really do match up fairly well with unconsciousness.

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    [–] 8 points 2 years ago

    I want to upvote the warning and downvote it contents

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago

    I have all ready seen total recall

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    The last thing I want to dream about is tweaking a thermostat.

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