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There can be no rest (lemmy.world)
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[–] 105 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Hah. Like Netflix is ever going to approve a third season of anything ever again.

They have twenty to go, tops.

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  • [+] -6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I mean, One Piece is kind of famous for it's breadth. I feel like they wouldn't greenlight it if they weren't prepared to follow through.

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  • [–] 43 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I don't trust capitalists and I don't trust Netflix. It is a safer bet they will cancel than continue this show after 3 seasons.

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  • [+] -13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Capitalist brought you the source material this was derived from tho

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Artists and writers brought you this source material. Labor did it.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    The same could be said for the show that is being discussed in the parent comment. I would hope you see my point by now but I'm going to guess you don't.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Capitalists own assets for a living and extract labor value in the form of profit. In this case, the intellectual property.

    Laborers actually do the work to create the product.

    You do not need someone else to own the art for it to be created. You do need labor for it to be created. Hope that clears it up for ya.

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  • [–] -4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Except laborers are also capitalists. I'm a laborer, and trust me when I say there's plenty of people here on Lemmy who think I'm a dirty fucking useless capitalist because I need to spend money to survive, or chose to purchase a luxury, or offset my labor by requesting compensation in money form from another person.

    90,000 different definitions here on Lemmy of what people think capitalism is and what a capitalist is, I'm weary at this point from all the disparate ideas of what this notion even is. It's ludicrous. It doesn't matter to people what it ACTUALLY MEANS becuase its become a sudonym for people hatred of money in general (which I share).

    So no, you don't get to have a world where somebody drew a comic for fun and profited off of it, but that's somehow NOT capitalism, then somehow when Netflix making a live show, is 100% different and suddenly capitalism. It's fucking stupid to even suggest. They are both capitalists. Even if the artist is not the IP holder, they have been a cog in the system which holds the IP regardless and as such are constituent.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago

    You just don't have class consciousness my friend and some of the terminology associated. That's fair, it's not always easy and it's also purposely obscured from you.

    It's easiest to think about people in two classes. Workers and Owners. There's a bit of gray area, but it's a very useful distinction. How do you make most of your money; owning property/factories/ip, or selling your labor for a wage?

    Profit is not the same thing as "making money". It's explicitly the extra money made by the capitalist after material and labor is paid. You pay 3 dollars of labor and 2 dollars of materials to make 6 dollars of revenue, you have made 1 dollar of profit. Arguably that dollar of value was made by the worker, but extracted by the capitalist.

    Obviously the workers don't do it for free, but the capitalist still isn't making the art. **The workers do. You aren't a capitalist. You have false solidarity with your masters.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    It’s about $17 million dollars an episode and there are about 1059 episodes to adapt. If they keep pace it will only cost about 18 billion dollars to adapt the current anime series.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago

    Well, it's not like an anime episode is the same as a live action episode though.

    An anime episode is like 20 minutes of content after you remove the opening and recap and ending. And if you remove all the filler and repeating scenes, it's maybe 5-10 minutes of actual content. They adapted like 45-50 episodes into 8, and the first saga is probably one of the most dense in terms of content.

    For the future, I fully expect a 10:1 ratio between anime episodes and live episodes. Maybe even more.

    That would still mean more than 12 seasons to go, before catching up to now, with who knows how many more before the series ends.

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    • [–] 41 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    And they're only allowed to age 2 years during shooting.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago

    Being allowed to age 2 years in 12 years (that's how long others are estimating to complete the story while cutting out most of the filler like they've apparently done so far) is a LUXURY in Hollywood 😛

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    • [–] 34 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Most actors would kill for job that stable.

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    • [–] 33 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    More like 500 if we skip the filler and keep good pace unlike the anime which is and has been complete bullshit for close to a decade now.

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    • [–] 32 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Based on my research, the first season of the Netflix live action show (8 episodes) covers the first 61 anime episodes. At this rate, the live action show could still continue for 17 more seasons.

    In all seriousness, the more I think about it, the more perfect this anime was for adaptation. There's a ton of filler in the anime, but otherwise good story beats and character development. When you condense that down, you get all the good and leave out the cruft.

    I watched all of the live action show this weekend, and really enjoyed it. I figured the anime tone and goofiness that they clearly baked right into it would work against it like all the other live action anime adaptations, but it feels like it's a lot less of a quick cash grab than the others. Some real love and attention went into it and it's a lot of fun.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    When you condense that down, you get all the good and leave out the cruft.

    Let's hope they'll keep Little Buggy's Great Adventure. That filler was hilarious.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    I wonder if they used the East Blue Episode that was released in like 2017 that condenses those 61 Episodes to a single one that is about 1:30h long and has the exact same ending.

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    • [–] 25 points 2 years ago

    I can already see the cost cutting theyll do. Aokiji green screened onto a static image of the sea and say its frozen

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    [–] 17 points 2 years ago

    For anyone that wants to switch over to the anime now, I suggest: https://onepace.net/

    It's a fan edit where they strip the filler, and try to make it more like the manga.

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    [–] 15 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Itll be cancelled like cowboy beebop

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Nah it's actually decent.

    Then again I didn't get the cowboy bebop hate either. It was okay? Like not OMFG THIS IS THE GREATEST SHOW OF ALL TIME, but it wasn't as shit as people claim it was. I fairly enjoyed the show, even after rewatching the anime right before.

    One Piece actually captures the flow and the mood of the anime. It is over the top, like the anime, but realistically toned down so it doesn't seem like it's trying too hard. The pace is good and the changes to the story seem coherent to adapting as an live action and for people who have heard of One Piece but never really got into it. The dialogues aren't literate master pieces but they really do not need to be. The special effects sometimes look a bit weird but they didn't bother me too much.

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    • [–] 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Fans of the OPLA getting into the anime realizing they have 1000+ episodes to watch to catch up (this will take years)

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    • [–] 9 points 2 years ago

    Just finished the first season this weekend and honestly loved the concept. Not the best acting for the extras but it was interesting to see the live iterations of many characters. I would love to see a second season.

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    [–] 8 points 2 years ago

    jk Netflix will cancel it in one (1) year

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    [–] 7 points 2 years ago

    I doubt that emily rudd and Godoy are going to make 1,000 episodes. There's no way they could do that, and still look the same by the end of it, they would age and look older

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    [–] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

    They really thought adopting this show to live action was a good idea?

    (I'm referring to the amount of episodes that meme is referring to. Not the quality of the show).

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    The thing about the anime is that it's very, very, very slow. If you cut out all the useless scenes, filler episodes, reaction shots, etc, they would probably only have to adapt around 300-400 episodes, which, while still a lot, is much more feasable.

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