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In a classified document approved in March, the president ordered U.S. forces to prepare for possible coordinated nuclear confrontations with Russia, China and DPRK. (www.nytimes.com)
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[–] 11 points 2 years ago

so this document was just released to the press? God damn theater, posturing, all of it.

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    [–] 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

    Vote Blue No Matter Who so that Bad Man doesn't get into office and launch the nukes!

    ...

    What do you mean the Democrats are the ones planning to launch the nukes?!?

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Tell me you didn’t read the article and don’t have any idea what you’re talking about without telling me you didn’t read the article and don’t have any idea what you’re talking about

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    I did read the article.

    IMO any politician advocating for anything less than permanent global nuclear disarmament needs to have spitballs lobbed at them perpetually without debate.

    While the Biden administration is not putting a date on when it will happen, they are not ruling out that they are willing (and more importantly able) to nuke the planet if something offends them.

    I acknowledge that this is not some bombshell piece of news because it is "normal", i.e. the US military plans for various invasions and scenarios that they supposedly don't intend to act on. But this kind of anti-social behavior is not only allowed, but publicly funded as if it's supposed to benefit everyone. I'm calling it out precisely because it is normal.

    My point is the fact that if you believe in nuclear nonproliferation, voting for either candidate won't move the needle on the issue.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Ok so if intelligence reports claim there's a risk of a coordinated attack from foreign countries that have nuclear weapons, what do you think the US should do to defend itself?

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Ok so if intelligence reports claim there's a risk of a coordinated attack

    The US is the only nuclear armed country with a history of actually using it. I'm a LOT more scared of the US doing the coordinated attack on someone than I am of the thought of any of the other nuclear armed countries striking first.

    Also implying I trust literally anything the US intelligence machine ever says ever.

    what do you think the US should do to defend itself?

    Boring answer: Not fucking use nuclear weapons, that's for sure. Diplomacy should be enough.

    Honest answer: I literally don't care about the US government's "right" to "defend" itself literally at all. As far as the innocent people who actually live here, we will respond in the only way that our government has planned for us in any disaster scenario: get sacrificed to maintain continuity of government and capitalist power.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    The US defending itself is always so funny to me. Against who? Canada? Mexico?

    The US can adequately defend itself with just the National Guard and the civilian population’s own gun stash. It’s the only country in the world that has more guns than people, about twice as many as the runner-up country. It doesn’t even need its army, navy, air force, or marine corp, not to mention its space farce.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn00e422yr2o

    “Europe does not have a developed [early warning system],” he added. “In this sense they are more or less defenceless.”

    So, to which parts of the world might Russia deploy its missiles?

    “Wherever we think it is necessary, we’re definitely going to put them. As President Putin made clear, we’ll investigate this question,” Vladimir Solovyov, one of Russian state TV’s most prominent hosts, tells me.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    Doesn't change my answer, except that Putin/[insert dictator of choice here] shouldn't be planning our destruction either, because no one should.

    Also see this comment. Tl;dr: I literally don't care about governments' rights to defend themselves from each other when, in any case, it will be the rest of life on Earth that pays the price.

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