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[–] 210 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The thing about Trump's whole political career that I find most incredible is that just about any one shitty thing he ever did, in isolation, would have been absolutely career ending for anyone else, or in the very least a massive, historically significant scandal. But with him? He just keeps the hits coming, so many disasters in such quick succession that none of them really have time to sink in, there's no time to really examine them because by the time you've really called him out, there's already some other stupid shit taking up the headlines.

Obama wore a tan suit, the News cycle freaked out. Obama asked for Dijon mustard on his burger, the news says he's hopelessly out of touch with the common people. These were SCANDALS in the public eye. Trump proposes just bombing Mexico... we have to go out of our way to point out that this is actually a big deal, because next week he'll have done something else completely insane.

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  • [–] 51 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    It's partially that he does it so often and partially that many of the claims are so outlandish that no one takes them seriously. Like saying he'll bomb Mexico. On the one hand, "he says lots of shit" and on the other "Ok, he won't REALLY bomb Mexico. He's just saying that. Someone will stop him from bombing Mexico. "

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago

    And partially that education is pretty bad in red states so when Trump says stupid shit there's a lot of people dumber than him thinking "this guy knows what he's talking about." He's the idiots idea of a genius because he's the first politician dumb enough for them to understand.

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  • [–] 112 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    Trump saying something extremely irresponsible and stupid isn't newsworthy anymore.

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  • [–] 56 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    It should be. What purpose would this serve? No concern for life or process. It speaks directly to how Trump sees those he considers less than him. If he were president again, how long until he threatens to bomb an American state passing laws he doesn't like?

    It's all fine and dandy when it's brown people, but what about working class people protesting for unions and workers rights? What about women standing united for the right to bodily autonomy? When the lgbtq community throws bricks again for getting arrested for existing in public? When women's suffrage is in question and people start taking hammers to windows and chaining themselves to railings?

    Every single thing he says should be considered prelude to the worst impulses of an unhinged and irresponsible mad man with more power than most people on earth could possibly dream of.

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  • [–] 29 points 2 years ago

    Agreed. Trump, the personality, should not be "newsworthy" anymore. Trump, the character in our shit-stirring forecasting, shouldn't be "newsworthy" anymore.

    Trump said a crazy thing that threatens millions of people and everyone needs to know what a threat he is? That's absolutely is still newsworthy.

    Quit speculating on whether Trump is joking, if Trump believes what he says, if he'll be nicer, or whatever other tea leaves that the media keeps claiming to be able to read. Just report on what the greatest individual immediate threat to this country is saying and doing.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    Don-Old Trump also suggested drinking bleach to cure Covid and using nuclear bombs to stop hurricanes.

    He’s so irresponsibly weird— and also clinically insane

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    [–] 66 points 2 years ago* (35 children)

    I remember debating with my buddy (he's pro-Russia) about the Ruso-Ukrainian war when it broke out, and my saying how Russia invading Ukraine because of Nazi gangs is a pretty flim flam excuse for a land grab. "It would be like the US invading Mexico and seizing territory because of the drug cartels", I said. Why is my country this way.

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    [–] 54 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    How sad is it that I learned about Trump's plan to bomb Mexico not from American news media, but from alarmed Mexican friends.

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  • [–] 41 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Mexico is our second largest trading partner. Both Canada and Mexico are our closest allies. They provided aid to the US after 9/11 and Hurricanes Katrina and Harvey.

    I'm not worried that this would start a war. I'm worried it would cause permanent tension between two friends.

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  • [–] 26 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

    Both Canada and Mexico are our closest allies. They provided aid to the US after 9/11 and Hurricanes Katrina and Harvey.

    And yet, Trump routinely shits on both countries and his cultists just blindly fall in line.

    I'm worried it would cause permanent tension between two friends.

    Don't worry, my American friend, we have already developed quite a bit of distrust in your country since 2016, and it's not likely to be repaired signifigantly until we see if y'all are willing to collectively and loudly reject trumpism and its related bullshit.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 years ago

    Same sentiment from Europe. A narrow Kamala victory will be just a temporary relief.

    Getting Trump elected has been a major victory for any enemies of the US, radicalizing the electorate and creating long lasting tensions and distrust,both internal and external.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago

    I’m worried it would cause permanent tension between two friends.

    Significant tension with our Mexican neighbors is exactly what Trump, Desantis and other weirdo's rhetoric is causing. They're just trying gin up more hatred from their bizarre, poorly educated, toxic supporters and they don't get a fuck about anyone else.

    Each time some GOP idiot talks about invading or bombing Mexico the news spreads like wildfire in Mexico while American news media ignores it almost completely. I repeatedly hear about bullshit the GOP freaks are spouting from my Mexican friends instead of reading about it in our own mainstream media.

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  • [–] 45 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    So that's the plan, Mexico is going to be Trump's Poland.

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  • [–] 33 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Republicans in 2028:

    "We can't have an election during a war! The election is suspended until the war with Mexico* is over."

    *-technically the war is with Mexican cartels, not the Mexican government, so as long as we say at least 1 cartel still exists the war isn't over.

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  • [–] 25 points 2 years ago

    So how come nobody is talking about it?

    Indeed, Vox news. How come, indeed.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago (20 children)

    Trump is an idiot but I've always wondered why the u.s and mexico don't join up and use the same force on cartels that they do on middle Eastern militants. If they went after cartels the way they do jihadists across the planet, there wouldn't be cartels left

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago

    Create a problem and claim yourself to be the best solution. "Drugs are bad. Give us more power to combat it!"

    Point the finger at 5 immigrants every day and ask the power over 300 million people to fix it.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago

    We've lent Mexico military assistance before. The issue is that the cartels spring from a fundamental lack of control and governance in the areas in question, which means that foreign military means simply can't fix the problem. At best, it can suppress open symptoms for a few years.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago

    The truth is we're winning against the cartels the same way we should have fought Al Qaeda, in the shadows. And by actually helping Mexico become less corrupt and more functional.

    Sending the 101st in may be cathartic but it's not the right move. If things go badly then we can always default to a military occupation. But it really shouldn't be our first option. Or our second, or our tenth.

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    [–] 18 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    It's quite amazing how the right adapted anti-war talking points, while they themselves are also warhawks.

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    [–] [B] 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

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    [–] 12 points 2 years ago

    bart.jpg: What a weird thing to say.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago

    “Media source stunned by the utter lack of balance and journalistic ethics in reporting on the US Presidential campaign because clicks matter more than facts when it comes to profits, are shocked to find nobody else has done the right thing either”.

    Ok, so now that they realize it what will they do?

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago
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