Im sure this has been asked before i juat can't find where it has been - Maybe need to work on how to search Lemmy better. But...

Id like to eventually self host some sevices that require external access. While I have IpV6 addresses my IPV4 is dynamic.

Whats the best free way to be able to point some domains/ subdomains I have to my external dynamic IP and keep it updated. Im running OpenWrt on my router. - So possibly should be posting there.

Free Dyndns services seem to be a bit crap. Do I need to pay for a VPS? (seems to defeat the point of self hosting)

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[–] 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (12 children)

I use afraid.org to keep my dynamic dns pointed at my routers ip. With afraid.org dns you only need a curl statement scheduled on the opendnswrt router to keep the dynamic ip updated.

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    [–] 10 points 2 years ago

    Self hosting doesn't mean you should host everything yourself at home, using a VPS you manage (so the data inside it is still yours) is also a viable option for selfhosting. I myself host some services at home and a few others in a VPS.

    As for Dyndns, I've used a few providers over the years. DuckDNS is the one I've been using for 5 years or so and it's not failed me once. Pretty happy with it.

    Maybe you could have a duckdns pointing to your dynamic IP and your domains / subdomains with a CNAME pointing to the dyndns address?

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Since you run already OpenWrt, you can check out https://openwrt.org/docs/guide-user/services/ddns/client

    There is a list on this page of compatible services. If you don't want to use one more service (DNS), you can use a domain registrar with an API (like porkbun) and find online tools that work with that.

    Be aware of the risks of hosting your websites publicly from home, make sure to run them in very isolated environments. Having your VPS compromised is bad, but having your home network compromised is much worse!

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 2 years ago

    Be aware of the risks of hosting your websites publicly from home, make sure to run them in very isolated environments. Having your VPS compromised is bad, but having your home network compromised is much worse!

    Agree - Not something I will throw myself into.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Yes I use no-ip but have to confirm the domain name every month or so and cant use my own domain on the free tier. (Maybe im just being cheap) - Also I haven't been able to figure out how I would use / get SSL certificates.

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    Many DNS providers have an API and are supported by various dynamicDNS clients. I use Cloudflare and the built in client on my Opnsense router.

    OpenWRT should have a client too that supports a bunch of services.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    VPS with a tunnel between it and home services (Wireguard/Tailscale, etc)in my opinion is Best Way as it isolates your home gateway (no open ports, because you make outbound connections to your VPS), and let VPS handle Identity and Access Management

    (Or an equivalent isolating architecture).

    Alternatively, Tailscale has a Funnel feature which can route public traffic into your Tailscale network. Though I don't love this approach, it does work for low-volume connections.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago

    Script that checks your external IP and updates your DNS provider via API.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago

    I'm using cloudflare as my nameserver and the free API seems to work just fine with ddclient.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago

    There are two options, one is tunneling (e.g. tailscale, cloudfare tunnels, or a VPS either with special software or plain old SSH port forward constant connection). The other option, the most popular answer (I think, influenced by how yoy asked) is Dynamic DNS or DynDNS (e.g. duck, hurricane, freedns, etc.) this second one is like the classic solution.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago

    Get your own domain, find a free DNS service that provides an API, and it becomes a simple matter of updating a DNS A record whenever your IP changes.

    Here's a starting point: https://community.letsencrypt.org/t/dns-providers-who-easily-integrate-with-lets-encrypt-dns-validation/86438

    Don't use a DynamicDNS service, they're usually crap and they make you depend on a domain you don't own.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Free Dyndns services seem to be a bit crap

    Why do you say that? https://freedns.afraid.org/ and https://www.duckdns.org are very solid and if you're looking for something more corporate even Cloudflare offers that service for free.

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    [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    How often does your IP actually change? Mine changes so rarely (during extended power outages, say) that I am able to just update my IP manually when it does.

    I even used to run my own authoritative DNS server at home (the one offered by my registrar isn't configurable enough, think SRV and TXT records) - for that, I have a web UI at my registrar to set the IP addresses of the DNS server.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago*

    I think you got enough recommendations for several tunneling solutions.

    Apart from that (and free DynDNS) you could also use a regular paid DNS provider. Some of them also offer DynDNS or an API. I think I saw some regular providers in the list of my DynDNS client on my router, next to the super cheap or free ones.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Namecheap domains include a dynamic DNS application for free and it works well. Be aware that it only runs on Windows.

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    [–] 3 points 2 years ago

    If you go down the VPS route, a headscale server on a cheap $3.50 VPS would be the way to go. Wouldn't even have to deal with IP addresses at that point, while still being able to self-host all your services, with the cheap VPS being a glorified switch/firewall.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    FreeDNS works pretty well as long as you don't need more than 5 DNS records.

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  • [–] [B] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I've seen in this thread:

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    I've used big names like ns1 and Cloudflare for free.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    Cloudflare has an api for easy dynamic dns. I use oznu/docker-cloudflare-ddns to manage this, it's super easy:

    docker run \
      -e API_KEY=xxxxxxx \
      -e ZONE=example.com \
      -e SUBDOMAIN=subdomain \
      oznu/cloudflare-ddns
    

    Then I just make a CNAME for each of my public facing services to point to 'subdomain.example.com' and use a reverse proxy to get incoming traffic to the right service.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 2 years ago

    Wow thanks everyone. I think I need to take another look at some of the DynDNS provides and digest all your great feedback.

    Id like to go beyond personal self hosting stuff and maybe run some stuff that requires Federation. Im just thinking at the moment.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (2 children)

    I've been using No-IP free plan for years without issues. Inputted the credentials to my routers DDNS client and then basically forgot about it. Free users need to confirm their account once a month via email but that's just one click.

    If your domain registrar happens to have an API to update DNS entries, you could implement DDNS yourself by writing a simple automated script to check the external IP (e.g. via ipify.org) and if it's changed from the last check then call the API to update the DNS entries.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    You can pay for dyndns service which should be more reliable than free ones. I don't have any experience with those, so I can't give any recommendations. What I'm running is that I use few of the free ones which are updated either from my router or from a linux VM and I've just pointed few easy to remember CNAME records from my own domain to those dynamic addresses. It's not the best thing in the world, but my dynamic IP tends to be pretty static as it usually changes only when my own hardware is down for a longer period of time (few hours or so, so a longer power outage or a hardware maintenance gone wrong).

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    Don't expose your services directly to the internet. Instead rent a VPS and the use Wireguard to bring the traffic back home. In your home network your services should be in there own VLAN and everything should be isolated and sandboxed. Everything has the potential to be compromised so always practice least privilege and defense in depth.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    Many registrars let you buy a domain and set up dynamic DNS for it within their system so you can own a domain and get dyndns on it.

    Otherwise you could accomplish it with a VPS but you'd only need the smallest one available because it would just need to run nginx to forward to your home ip (and a small tool to update that IP when it changes). So you could probably get something for less than $5/mo.

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