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[–] 2 points 3 years ago (1 child)

As a cyclist, I've seen more motorists blow through stop signs than other cyclists, and they are the ones who can kill someone.

Idaho Stops need to come to Canada. Not only have they been proven to be safer, but it makes sense in a dozen different ways.

I've sat at red lights (as a cyclist) and the light DOES NOT CHANGE unless a car is waiting at that same light. We're talking 10+ minutes. Who the hell thinks it's OK for cyclists to have to sit there indefinitely when no other cars are around, just because of some outdated laws? We need to change with the times!

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child)

    As a Torontonian cyclist, according to what I see, we blow through stop signs way more than cars. Way more. Of course physically we can mostly just harm ourselves.

    But yes the rules of the road have to change in this regard. The status quo is clearly car-friendly. Not only it doesn't prioritize cyclists, but it doesn't prioritize pedestrians either.

    BTW, ebikes help negotiating the status quo a lot. They make stopping at stop signs trivial, as well as keeping a safe speed when riding where there's no bike lanes.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    I'm east of the city, and we don't have nearly the same amount of cyclists as you do, but only very few ever cautiously ride through a stop sign. I won't lie, but I did see quite a few cyclists going through stop signs when I was in the city last weekend... not putting anyone in danger, just to save time.

    I thought I read about a protest in Toronto where cyclists were stopping at EVERY stop sign as a large group, backing up traffic in an act of malicious compliance. I'd be totally down for that if crazy motorists didn't turn their rage onto me, rather than onto these outdated rules.

    I agree that e-bikes can level the playing field, but the general public shouldn't need to have a powered bike to have fair rules, either.

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  • [–] -3 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    And those jurisdictions are what is colloquially known as "stupid".

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    Considering how much stop signs are overused in North America, this is unreasonable. Either replace many stop signs with yield signs where safe to do so, or allow cyclists to pass through stop signs as if it they were yield signs. Holding momentum is important for cyclists.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    Cars and bicycles are two completely different things, and should have different rules governing them. A car is larger, deadlier, and takes longer to stop than a bicycle. A car going 40-50 kph is traveling with far more force, and won't be able to stop as fast as a bicycle traveling 20 kph.

    It's like saying cars and planes should follow the same rules. Or even better, cars and semi trucks. There are highway speed signs that state one speed for trucks and one for everyone else. Or certain roads where trucks aren't allowed to drive on. We already have a tiered approach to motor vehicles, it should extend to bikes as well. Blanket approaches don't work in our modern world when we have cars, bikes, ebikes, escooters, etc all sharing the same space.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    If you're gonna ride your bicycle on the road, you better stop at a stop sign. Don't be an idiot.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I mean, I always yield at stop signs, but I am not likely to come to a complete stop on a bike if there is nobody to yield to. Many car drivers don't either, as any road user is already aware.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    "Oh they're doing it so I can do it to," said the pile of bones and guts spread out along the intersection.

    Cars have a little more protection than a bicyclist for the occupants of the vehicle.

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