▲ 336 ▼ TIL Bob Barker was an enrolled member of the Sioux Tribe and grew up on a reservation in South Dakota (en.wikipedia.org) submitted 3 years ago by trexman@sh.itjust.works to c/til@lemmy.world 20 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 24 points 3 years ago (5 children) How do people in the u.s get tribe status when they're like 1/60th native, and I'm 57% and my government says that's not enough? permalink fedilink source hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml 29 points 3 years ago* (1 child) It's handled by individual tribal governments. Some are very strict about who they let in, others are much more liberal about it. Basically it isn't our federal government that makes that determination. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] niktemadur@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago Just below you somebody posted that Barker was of 1/8 Native heritage. Yet he grew up on a reservation, and even strict tribal elders should (and probably did) take into consideration Barker's positive accomplishments for society in general, such as his campaign of awareness to spay/neuter pets to help keep the population under control humanely, and he was never afraid of using his microphone and airtime to remind his large audience every day, for decades. What I'm saying is, even if 1/8 wasn't technically enough, he could have made it in just like accomplished artists often receive honorary PhDs from prestigious Universities, even when they did not have (or finish) their formal education when younger. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ArgentRaven@lemmy.world 14 points 3 years ago (2 children) 57% of which tribe? With more than half, I would expect you to have a fairly strong upbringing in the tribe with various customs and your parents likely know how to get you enrolled. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ThunderclapSasquatch@startrek.website 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) Not always that simple. My father has tried for years but gets stonewalled because of who his father was, my grandfather was disowned for marrying a white woman rather than leave her a single mother. In the end I think being cut off like that is what killed my grandfather really. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] freecandy@lemmy.world -4 points 3 years ago* @lemmy.dickbutt/autobio50words permalink fedilink source parent [–] weariedfae@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Some tribes have been in legal battles over the past few decades because they're trying to disenroll people no matter how "native" they are. IIRC at least one tribe was limiting membership to only the descendants of the families that signed a specific treaty and then only if they had the paperwork to back it up. Which, if you know anything about the history of natives in this country, is really fucked up to require. Not the one I remember but here's an example of a tribe disenrolling people regardless of their "blood quantum": https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/united-nations-watchdogs-raise-concerns-about-nooksack-evictions-again/ permalink fedilink source parent [–] laylawashere44@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 3 years ago Barker was apparently 1/8 native. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PeleSpirit@lemmy.world 11 points 3 years ago (1 child) In the US, it depends on the tribe and they decide how much you need. Some are stricter than others. Canada and the US have been competing for worst treatment of first nations for a long time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Blastasaurus@lemm.ee -6 points 3 years ago I mean, not true at all. Various Asian and African nations are still committing genocide to this day. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Appropriate_Rate@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) Explain to me how you're 57%. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 22 points 3 years ago (1 child) 73 of his 128 great great great great great grandparents were native Americans. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] davidgro@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago* Realistically, they probably got that number from 23andMe or similar. Mine is 2.6% for Indigenous American, which is well within margin of error of what I heard from my family. (Note that those tests actually have very wide error bars anyway) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml 29 points 3 years ago* (1 child) It's handled by individual tribal governments. Some are very strict about who they let in, others are much more liberal about it. Basically it isn't our federal government that makes that determination. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] niktemadur@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago Just below you somebody posted that Barker was of 1/8 Native heritage. Yet he grew up on a reservation, and even strict tribal elders should (and probably did) take into consideration Barker's positive accomplishments for society in general, such as his campaign of awareness to spay/neuter pets to help keep the population under control humanely, and he was never afraid of using his microphone and airtime to remind his large audience every day, for decades. What I'm saying is, even if 1/8 wasn't technically enough, he could have made it in just like accomplished artists often receive honorary PhDs from prestigious Universities, even when they did not have (or finish) their formal education when younger. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] niktemadur@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago Just below you somebody posted that Barker was of 1/8 Native heritage. Yet he grew up on a reservation, and even strict tribal elders should (and probably did) take into consideration Barker's positive accomplishments for society in general, such as his campaign of awareness to spay/neuter pets to help keep the population under control humanely, and he was never afraid of using his microphone and airtime to remind his large audience every day, for decades. What I'm saying is, even if 1/8 wasn't technically enough, he could have made it in just like accomplished artists often receive honorary PhDs from prestigious Universities, even when they did not have (or finish) their formal education when younger. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ArgentRaven@lemmy.world 14 points 3 years ago (2 children) 57% of which tribe? With more than half, I would expect you to have a fairly strong upbringing in the tribe with various customs and your parents likely know how to get you enrolled. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ThunderclapSasquatch@startrek.website 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) Not always that simple. My father has tried for years but gets stonewalled because of who his father was, my grandfather was disowned for marrying a white woman rather than leave her a single mother. In the end I think being cut off like that is what killed my grandfather really. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] freecandy@lemmy.world -4 points 3 years ago* @lemmy.dickbutt/autobio50words permalink fedilink source parent [–] weariedfae@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Some tribes have been in legal battles over the past few decades because they're trying to disenroll people no matter how "native" they are. IIRC at least one tribe was limiting membership to only the descendants of the families that signed a specific treaty and then only if they had the paperwork to back it up. Which, if you know anything about the history of natives in this country, is really fucked up to require. Not the one I remember but here's an example of a tribe disenrolling people regardless of their "blood quantum": https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/united-nations-watchdogs-raise-concerns-about-nooksack-evictions-again/ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ThunderclapSasquatch@startrek.website 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) Not always that simple. My father has tried for years but gets stonewalled because of who his father was, my grandfather was disowned for marrying a white woman rather than leave her a single mother. In the end I think being cut off like that is what killed my grandfather really. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] freecandy@lemmy.world -4 points 3 years ago* @lemmy.dickbutt/autobio50words permalink fedilink source parent
[–] freecandy@lemmy.world -4 points 3 years ago* @lemmy.dickbutt/autobio50words permalink fedilink source parent
[–] weariedfae@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Some tribes have been in legal battles over the past few decades because they're trying to disenroll people no matter how "native" they are. IIRC at least one tribe was limiting membership to only the descendants of the families that signed a specific treaty and then only if they had the paperwork to back it up. Which, if you know anything about the history of natives in this country, is really fucked up to require. Not the one I remember but here's an example of a tribe disenrolling people regardless of their "blood quantum": https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/united-nations-watchdogs-raise-concerns-about-nooksack-evictions-again/ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] laylawashere44@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 3 years ago Barker was apparently 1/8 native. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PeleSpirit@lemmy.world 11 points 3 years ago (1 child) In the US, it depends on the tribe and they decide how much you need. Some are stricter than others. Canada and the US have been competing for worst treatment of first nations for a long time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Blastasaurus@lemm.ee -6 points 3 years ago I mean, not true at all. Various Asian and African nations are still committing genocide to this day. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Blastasaurus@lemm.ee -6 points 3 years ago I mean, not true at all. Various Asian and African nations are still committing genocide to this day. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Appropriate_Rate@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) Explain to me how you're 57%. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 22 points 3 years ago (1 child) 73 of his 128 great great great great great grandparents were native Americans. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] davidgro@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago* Realistically, they probably got that number from 23andMe or similar. Mine is 2.6% for Indigenous American, which is well within margin of error of what I heard from my family. (Note that those tests actually have very wide error bars anyway) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 22 points 3 years ago (1 child) 73 of his 128 great great great great great grandparents were native Americans. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] davidgro@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago* Realistically, they probably got that number from 23andMe or similar. Mine is 2.6% for Indigenous American, which is well within margin of error of what I heard from my family. (Note that those tests actually have very wide error bars anyway) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] davidgro@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago* Realistically, they probably got that number from 23andMe or similar. Mine is 2.6% for Indigenous American, which is well within margin of error of what I heard from my family. (Note that those tests actually have very wide error bars anyway) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 16 points 3 years ago (1 child) Wishing him a blessed journey to the land of souls. permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] runjun@lemmy.world 8 points 3 years ago* (3 children) Are you from the Rapid City area or is your username a coincidence? Always trips me out when I come across anyone from SoDak. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] HarrySlaughter@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago Former South Dakotan here! I feel the same way when I see another Dakotan here permalink fedilink source parent [–] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 4 points 3 years ago (2 children) there are like 50 rapid towns in the US permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] turtlepower@lemm.ee 22 points 3 years ago The rest of them are slow af permalink fedilink source parent [–] runjun@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago Thus the question and not an assertion. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ThunderclapSasquatch@startrek.website 2 points 3 years ago Imagine how it feels for Wyomingites like me, never happens permalink fedilink source parent
[–] runjun@lemmy.world 8 points 3 years ago* (3 children) Are you from the Rapid City area or is your username a coincidence? Always trips me out when I come across anyone from SoDak. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] HarrySlaughter@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago Former South Dakotan here! I feel the same way when I see another Dakotan here permalink fedilink source parent [–] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 4 points 3 years ago (2 children) there are like 50 rapid towns in the US permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] turtlepower@lemm.ee 22 points 3 years ago The rest of them are slow af permalink fedilink source parent [–] runjun@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago Thus the question and not an assertion. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ThunderclapSasquatch@startrek.website 2 points 3 years ago Imagine how it feels for Wyomingites like me, never happens permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HarrySlaughter@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago Former South Dakotan here! I feel the same way when I see another Dakotan here permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 4 points 3 years ago (2 children) there are like 50 rapid towns in the US permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] turtlepower@lemm.ee 22 points 3 years ago The rest of them are slow af permalink fedilink source parent [–] runjun@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago Thus the question and not an assertion. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] turtlepower@lemm.ee 22 points 3 years ago The rest of them are slow af permalink fedilink source parent
[–] runjun@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago Thus the question and not an assertion. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ThunderclapSasquatch@startrek.website 2 points 3 years ago Imagine how it feels for Wyomingites like me, never happens permalink fedilink source parent
[+] NathanielThomas@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source
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