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[–] 198 points 2 years ago (6 children)

WinAmp making their source code 'source available' instead of open source, and then dropping this phrase:

The release of the Winamp player's source code will enable developers from all over the world to actively participate in its evolution and improvement.

Yeah I don't think so

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  • [–] 74 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Yup, as much as I like Grayjay, I'm not going to help development much because it's "source available" instead of open source. There was an annoying bug I wanted fixed, and I was willing to go set up my dev environment and track it down, but they don't seem interested in contributions, so I won't make the effort.

    Likewise for WinAmp. The main benefit to it being "source available" is that I can recompile it and researchers can look for bugs. That's it. They're not going to get developers interested.

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  • [–] 44 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Even if they accept patches, contributing still sounds like a bad deal. It's free labor for some company. FOSS at minimum means the right to fork, precisely what "source available" seeks to deny.

    Leaving aside the question of winamp vs comparable programs, does anyone even care about desktop music players any more? I'm a throwback and use command line players, but I thought the cool kids these days use phones for stuff like that.

    I understand there is some technical obstacle to porting Rockbox to Android, but idk what it is and haven't tried to look into it.

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    [–] 124 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    If you want a FOSS player that can use Winamp skins, it exists.

    Audacious is an open-source audio-player, that can display these 98,000 .wsz Winamp Classic skins, today.

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    [–] 106 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Is it important? It was a cool program 30 years ago but it's just a playback UI right?

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  • [–] 54 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    It’s not the old program anymore, and it already leaked a long time ago. It was obvious that the new one wouldn’t be open.

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  • [–] 50 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    The new one is just a web UI with options for streaming music. There were talks of the old original Winamp going open source though, which bought nostalgic memories to many. Eithercase, with so many music players on both Windows and Linux, I doubt Winamp would a niche case to fill.

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  • [–] 84 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Alright, Winamp. You can go be forgotten forever now.

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  • [–] 82 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    And now I'm curious how Winamp actually makes money.

    **Edit

    Just went to the website, it's a subscription Spotify knock off now. Still doesn't explain who are the people that actually pay for this.

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  • [–] 48 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    It's a little bit sad to me that Winamp collapsed just a year or two before smart phones really took off because it's interface and customizability were pretty well suited to the app format of smart phones. And now that the code and design are owned by a company that's being run by greedy morons there is likely never going to be anything resembling the original available for the phone app market.

    I just use VLC on my phone these days. It works, no bullshit ads, and no glitches.

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    [+] 45 points 2 years ago* (last edited 7 months ago)
    [–] 43 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I mean... What contribution would this code actually be to the audio player world at this point?

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  • [–] 33 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    Guess I’ll stick with foobar!

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    [+] 29 points 2 years ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)
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    [–] 26 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

    Maybe someone can explain to me why Winamp is still so popular?

    I have used Winamp 2, 3 and 5 around 2000ish, and it was a fine player, but nothing really special. After Winamp I think I switched to MediaMonkey, which IMO was easier to manage my music collection. Then I used VirtualDJ, which supported cross fading between music with synchronized beats. I think I also used foobar2000 a bit.

    Winamp was an okayish player, but there was much more powerful software around at that time. It this just nostalgics or is there really something that people miss today that Winamp provided or still provides?

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  • [–] 41 points 2 years ago (1 child)
    • Better interface than Windows Media player
    • 100s of cool and edgy skins
    • Nice looking graphic equalizer
    • Nice music visualizer
    • Easy to make playlists
    • Tiny looking player which gelled with the early-mid 2000s vibe

    And most importantly, it really whips the Llama's ass. TBH, there aren't a lot of serious reasons. It was just slightly better than the default music player. I personally feel the skins played a significant part.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago

    I don't think it's actually still popular, but I'm just talking out of my ass here. I remember it made some waves a few months ago about finally having a new release after so long, and my feeling was a shitload of nostalgia brought it back into the internet spotlight, regardless of how many people are actually using it.

    I gave it a spin again, purely for nostalgia. I could find no compelling reason to use it over my actual preferred player, foobar

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    [–] 21 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    This does not whip the llama's ass.

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    [–] 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

    Why would they call the open version 'openllama'? Isn't llama that ai model?

    Edit: Thanks for the downvotes people, I'm sorry for not knowing a meme in a language that's not my native from before I was born

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  • [–] 32 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    "Winamp, it really whips the llama's ass"

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago

    talk about burying the lede. the title should've been: WINAMP STILL EXISTS (also not going open source)

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  • [–] 15 points 2 years ago

    Support the QMMP and WACUP projects

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    [–] 11 points 2 years ago

    probably because it's a piece of shit and so they would have to rewrite it

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    How is foobar2000 not on Linux?

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    [–] 8 points 2 years ago*

    For those that don't know, they are going to release something called FreeLlama which might be FOSS (no public info as to what the license actually will be).

    Winamp says that they still want to control 'what features' go into winamp and it'll remain proprietary. I assume they really just want people to contribute interesting things to FreeLlama and then put the contribution into Winamp.

    The license probably won't be FOSS because they probably aren't going to want anyone contributing to own copyright to the code that they are committing.

    It is odd because FOSS contributors aren't really known for being OK with this sort of thing in the past, so I doubt they're going to get much out of it. Maybe it's a Hail Mary and they'll end up blaming people for not freely giving up their devtime and creativity to a company that wants to make money on it.

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