Just a random (almost 35 years too late) question because I've been replaying SMB2 on the Switch.

It seems like she's just objectively better in every way. I don't get why I would pick the others.

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[–] 85 points 3 years ago (2 children)

Oh man, I love Super Mario Bros 2! It's one of my favorite games of all time.

So, each character actually has very different stats.

Luigi and Princess have obvious special jumping abilities. I think Luigi can actually jump a little farther... But both of them have significantly shorter jumps and run more slowly when carrying a vegetable, and both pick up vegetables quite slowly (especially the princess). This can be extremely detrimental on sand stages that require a lot of fast digging to get away from enemies, or picking up a block to throw at a boss before he attacks.

Toad is the opposite. He can pick up vegetables and run with them blazingly fast, and can run and jump as high (higher?) while carrying them.

Mario is balanced all-around.

It's all explained in the instruction manual with some cute drawings. Each character is really quite balanced in my opinion.

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  • [–] [S] 25 points 3 years ago* (1 child)

    Oh wow, I had no idea. I didn't even own the manual back in the day because I played it on Mario All Stars on the SNES.

    Where were you with this info in the mid 1990s?

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  • [–] 21 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Huh, transgender Birdette is in there too.

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  • [–] [S] 19 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    I thought this comment was a joke. lol

    For anyone else out of the loop, here's a screenshot from the linked manual above:

    (also, apparently his name is supposed to be Birdo, but it was misprinted in the manual as "Ostro". Ostros are the big flamingo looking things)

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  • [–] 59 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    The reason to has actually been removed.

    In the US version of Mario 2, all you have to do is make it to the end with any character to win. In the Japanese Doki Doki Panic on which it is based, you actually need to get to the end with all 4 characters before you've beaten the game.

    The different characters do have strengths and weaknesses: differences in run speed, item pickup speed, and jump mechanics (and Toad actually runs faster when he's holding an item) but you are correct in that for purposes simply amounting to no more than getting through each level to the end, using Peach/Toadstool is the easiest.

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  • [–] [S] 16 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Oh man, this would have been brutal and fun!

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I think you could recreate that experience a bit of you go after the retroachevments for the game (e.g. fan made achievements enforced via emulator). I think they require you beat the game 5 times, one for each character and once with a split group. Also, no damage runs and such. Difficult stuff.

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  • [–] 23 points 3 years ago

    Peach is a slow runner and it takes her a long time to pick up an object.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago

    Peach is slow as hell. Toad all day baybee

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  • [–] 19 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    That's always been my feeling too. I think Mario can run faster, and Luigi can jump a little higher, but Peach just controls better. Who knows what kind of maniac would choose Toad.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Hi! I am a toadstool maniac. Ama.

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  • [–] 15 points 3 years ago* (2 children)

    There's a warp zone you can only reach with Luigi, IIRC (but it's been a long time). So for one level, at least, he's better if you want to skip ahead.

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    [–] 12 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    If you want an overly objective answer, speedrunners use different characters for different levels because they're faster in different ways, and I don't think Peach is used often. As a casual player IDK lol I always just played as Peach

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    Maybe I should watch some speed runs. The others just feel terrible to use, and I can't fathom how they would be better.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    You're playing on Switch so I guess that's the same as the NES release? Here's the current world record for all levels

    https://www.twitch.tv/coolkid/v/948465227?sr=a

    https://www.speedrun.com/smb2?h=All_Levels&x=l9kv002g

    Here's a run from a GamesDoneQuick event which means the commentary will probably explain more than usual

    https://youtu.be/hGTLfo3f2VI

    Oh and here are the number of levels played by each character from the end of that GDQ run lol

    The world record is 1, 5, 13, and 1

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago

    Speedruns can be a lot of fun to watch - the better you know the game, the more fun it can be. Some runs get freaky, but a lot of games have glitchless categories or some kind of ruleset that doesn't break the game too badly. A lot of glitches are fascinating, too.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago

    Peach was basically my only character ever, but occasionally I would use Toad for the Ice level with all the whales since he could jump between the bees easily.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Because you're my 5 year old god daughter who always wants to play as "Uwiigi".

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago

    Playing as Peach in Mario 2 was the OG "Funky Mode."

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago

    Peach's jump is OP. I loved SMB2.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago

    The answer is that you wouldn't. Because she can float. SHE CAN FLOAT.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    This is an excellent question and I await the responses to see if anyone used other characters.

    Peach was the character I used the most for sure.

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    [–] 6 points 2 years ago

    Luigi can jump really high, so I like playing as Luigi as well.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago

    Buh-da buh-da buh-da buh-da da-buh

    aeiou

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