“All they are trying to do is convince us that there is some kind of movement toward where we want,” Siblani said. “But it’s too slow and it’s dragging. It’s more death and casualties that are happening.”

The highest-profile example of the stonewalling came last week when a Palestinian American doctor walked out of a meeting with Biden. But interviews with Muslim and Arab American leaders reveal how that face-to-face protest was only the most conspicuous case of a fracture that has damaged crucial relationships and closed avenues needed to repair them.

But the situation presents a challenge for a president who believes in the political power of personal relationships and has prized his history of sitting down with opponents and critics. It could also jeopardize his reelection this year, with some Muslims warning they are unwilling to support Biden even it that risks returning Donald Trump, the presumptive Republican nominee, to the White House.

Salam Al-Marayati, who lives in Los Angeles and leads the Muslim Public Affairs Council, described the attitude as, “Forget them. They have to learn a lesson. And if they lose, that’s the lesson they should learn.”

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[–] 36 points 2 years ago (1 child)

" some Muslims warning they are unwilling to support Biden even it that risks returning Donald Trump" ...who will be eager to urge Israel to "finish" the job".

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  • [–] 32 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    some Muslims warning they are unwilling to support Biden even it that risks returning Donald Trump

    Yep, these people are fucking morons.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Yeah, they're morons for refusing to vote for a guy killing their friends and families. Maybe you should work harder to move the Dems away from supporting genocide.

    They're not voting for Trump either. They're exercising their democratic rights. Biden should earn their votes, not be entitled to it because one guy is less overt about doing genocide.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    You have a gun with one bullet. Should you shoot the guy who says he's going to stab someone or shoot the guy who says he's going to blow up a daycare full of children? Hmm. Better exercise your moral highground and do nothing. That'll show'em!

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    What a nonsense imaginary situation you've made up to excuse your favored genocider-in-chief. If you ever wonder how the Holocaust could've been allowed to happened, just look at your own posts trying to justify genocide happening right now.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (11 children)

    He just shit the bed so bad.

    All he had to do was stay the fuck out of it and say I’m not trump and he would have won by a landslide.

    Now we will probably get trump and we deserve it.

    Yes I am part of that and no I don’t feel bad about it.

    You guys decided you would rather have trump and support genocidal actions and said fuck you to us.

    Then you beg for our support while calling us idiots.

    Generic you, not natural_motions you

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    The true morons are biden and his supporters who think supporting genocide is more important than winning the election. Stop supporting genocide and you get their votes. Seems like a win-win, but I guess biden and his supporters think that's too much winning. Typical democrats snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

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    [–] 13 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Dan Koh, deputy director of the White House Office of Intergovernmental Affairs, said the administration wants “to make sure we’re as accessible as possible.” “We understand that some people do not want to engage. We respect that,” he said. “But we think that the people who have engaged have felt that it was a fruitful discussion.”

    "Why isn't our good good words convincing people?!"

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    If you're an American it seems like your choices really are between Biden and his slow genocide or Trump with his quick one.

    It doesn't seem like you can really rely on your political leaders to help resolve this conflict in a way that doesn't lead to more suffering and death, only the pace at which it happens. If those are the only two options, I don't blame Muslim and Arab Americans for giving up on Biden.

    I think it would just be more honest to acknowledge there's no real support amongst any American political leadership to minimise the suffering of either the Palestinian or Israeli people.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    What suffering of the Israelis? They're partying and listening to shitty techno music and getting showered in free American money and weapons.

    Palestinians are living in tents and starving. They'd love to be subjected to America's treatment of Israel.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    Both Palestinians and Israelis see each other as existential threats. Ignoring this basic reality means there will always be conflict in the region.

    Palestinians are suffering en masse right now, I don't think anyone reasonable is denying that.

    But what do you think happens if the underlying, justifiable, fear that they each have of the isn't addressed? There will be more massacres and more war, and like in every war, innocent people will pay the price.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

    Both white slave owners and black slaves see each other as existential threats. There will be conflict. We should try to find a negotiated peace between them so the slave owners can have their slaves in peace.

    Stop both-sidesing this like a dumb liberal. What's happening is colonialism and it's wrong. Wake the fuck up, Israelis are trying to replace the Palestinians, not co-exist with them. There is 75 years of history to demonstrate that.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    We need to stop paying attention to what the Biden government says, and pay absolute attention to what they do! They're speaking out of both sides of their mouth, FFS!

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago

    Fuck Israel.

    https://kolektiva.media/w/ba1cb5b0-521f-4aee-9334-bd5ab1dd16e1

    Donate to legal funds for those who get captured by police on April 15th or get your ass to a demonstration. This needs to stop.

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