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DENVER — An engine cover on a Boeing 737 operated by Southwest Airlines ripped open just after taking off from Denver International Airport Sunday morning.

The Houston-bound Southwest flight took off from DIA around 7:45 a.m., and returned to the airport 30 minutes later, landing safely. No injuries were reported.

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[–] 131 points 2 years ago (8 children)

It's almost like overworking people in the name of profits gets in the way of safety snd reliability.

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    [–] 61 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Looks at post title and wonders if Boeing

    Opens article

    Is Boeing

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  • [–] 26 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    You do know that this has nothing to do with it being a Boeing aircraft, right? The flight was a 737-800 which is from the NG series of 737s. The NG series has one of the lowest accidents per departure of any aircraft ever made and they probably have the most departure of any aircraft series.

    This was 100% on Southwest. This aircraft was built in 2015 and has been flying for a decade. All that happened was a Southwest mechanic didn't latch the engine cowling properly after an at gate service. This is a problem and should not happen, but has nothing to do with Boeing.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    It's the Ohio train derailment all over again. Accident happens, people pay more attention to similar accidents, they are shared more on social media (especially if they confirm what people now this is true), people not smart enough to understand that hearing about it more does not mean it's happening more, and so every accident confirms their belief no matter what.

    It's a vicious feedback loop.

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  • [–] 61 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    It has been said a lot these last few months, but it is worth repeating untill Boeing stops dicking around...

    "It is Boeing, I ain't going"

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  • [–] 39 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    It's also important to try to avoid jumping to conclusions without the facts. If this is a new 737 and there's a manufacturing issue, then rake Boeing over the coals. They do have problems. But if this is an older plane that had either maintenance issues, then go after Southwest first unless it's a Boeing responsibility. And of course, things do happen beyond anyone's control too, and engines that fail for any reason but don't take out the rest of the aircraft is a bit of a win for design.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    The story doesn’t mention the age or variant of the plane, but there’s a good chance this is an issue with Southwest maintenance, not Boeing (or their subcontractors) construction.

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  • [–] 38 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Some quick googling got me the details.

    1. The article mentions the flight number.
    2. Since I didn't know the airline code of Southweast, I googled Southwest and the flight number.
    3. Google flights showed me the full flight number.
    4. Putting that into Flightradar got me a list of the last flights of this flight, one showing a deviation.
    5. Going in there gave me the registration number of the plane that flew that flight and data about the type of plane.
    6. Searching FAA registry gave me all details of the plane.

    It is a Boeing 737-8H4, delivered in 2015, so an alomst decade old plane, meaning it was probably an issue with maintenance this time.

    Doesn't mean I would fly a Boeing plane untill the stop dicking around.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    How would they stop dicking around with a plane sold to Southwest 9 years ago?

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    You are aware of the other recent high profile accidents with Boeing planes and the issues with Boeing mgmt?

    This incident may not be related, but based on the other issues I remain steady in my resolve that if it is Boeing I ain't going.

    Untill the focus of Boeing shifts from it's share value and back to engineering, I will be very careful about getting on a Boeing flight.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    I'm aware of a number of airlines experiencing random mechanical issues on Boeing aircraft they've owned for years. And 1 issue that was a new plane which is still under investigation and likely was Boeing's fault

    I and my team of about 25 engineers travel for work constantly. Weird mechanical issues happen way more than the public realizes. Saying all of it has been Boeing's fault is factually incorrect.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    You are absolutely right that claiming it is all Boeing's fault is incorrect, I never claimed that it was.

    However, since the MD/Boeing merger, Boeing mgmt has acted reckless with safety.

    They have pushed the margins of safety too far and we are starting to see the issues now.

    I realize that you and your team may not have a lot of choice about what plane you can fly on, but I have, and I will pick flights based on the plane.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago

    I get it. And I'm probably an oddball with being fascinated about flying even before I started traveling for work. Now it's something I do for fun to track planes I'll be on.

    So to me the only thing that's changed recently is the news getting clicks running any story they can about Boeing. They could have been for years if they wanted to. But it's one of the current hot topics now.

    And even now the news should be shitting on the airlines directly much moreso than Boeing. All issues I've heard of since the door blowout would have been a maintenance problem. Especially United. It seems like those fuckers in particular have cut corners. I avoid them in general when booking regardless of plane type.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    What other options are there for domestic US flights?

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    https://simpleflying.com/ten-busiest-domestic-us-airbus-a321neo-routes/

    Plenty.

    Then you guys also have sleeper trains in some regions, not at the same level as here in Europe, but they exist and are a decent alternative to flying on the routes.

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  • [–] 53 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    The article doesn't say "bomb jolt" it says "bump, jolt." In case no one actually reads the article.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Thank you, luckily Lemmy let's you edit titles @jimmydoreisalefty@lemmy.world

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    [–] 10 points 2 years ago

    Oh hey look it’s a Boeing plane again.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    goddamn planes are falling apart no matter who the fuck makes or services 'em. I am slowly but surely losing trust in air travel at the moment.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I mean, all recent coverage seems to have been about Boeing planes..

    ..but stuff like this is likely more due to shoddy maintenance than production faults, right?

    It’s just that everyone is hyper-vigilant currently for anything that goes wrong on a Boeing flight currently.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago

    but stuff like this is likely more due to shoddy maintenance than production faults, right?

    yes exactly. you nailed it of course, it's the same thing like when you buy a car and then you see it everywhere. Human brain likes to connect patterns when possible so anything Boeing is like, 'there they go again!' when in reality it's poor maintenance. Part of why Alaska Airlines has looked real bad with all this stuff, bad maintenance like you said.

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    [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Noob question: In this age of connected things, why can't the plane have a sensor to detect if the engine cover is closed, and show an error if it is not before flying?

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago

    They absolutely have sensors that say “hey, the engine cover is reporting open” but it comes down to where they are when they get that report. I highly doubt the cover was open when they took off, and there’s not going to be a “the engine cover is going to open soon” sensor for this kind of situation.

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