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Downvoting stuff without explaining why is what Karen does (lemmy.world)
submitted 2 years ago by to c/unpopularopinion@lemmy.world
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[–] 23 points 2 years ago (1 child)

If someone is an ass or a troll, you should NOT engage with them. Just downvote and move on

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  • [+] [S] -12 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Thing is I don't downvote without explaining why I did so.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    But you should.

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    • [–] 18 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    A downvote isn't meant to communicate anything to you. It's communicating that they don't recommend your comment. It's a function of the system we use. Feeling entitled to a justification is karenish.

    There are actually a lot of people who lurk on these sorts of platforms and don't really have a desire to engage with us.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    Yes, sure. But there are exceptions like here in /c/unpopularopinion for example. The guideline for this community says:

    Vote the opposite of the norm.

    If you agree that the opinion is unpopular give it an arrow up. If it’s something that’s widely accepted, give it an arrow down

    Since my post has 70 downvotes now this would mean that most people think that this is a popular opinion. But somehow I get the feeling that this is not what most people wanted to communicate.

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    • [+] 14 points 2 years ago (1 child)
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  • [–] [S] -3 points 2 years ago

    I'm all about discussion. But there can't be much of a discussion if the one you talking to just says no to any given argument. That would be like Karen telling me no when I try to explain to her that the earth is not flat. She could downvote that statement but I'd really like Karen to elaborate on why she thinks I'm wrong and she is right. Don't you see that Karen takes your position on this one? What I'm getting at is that with your downvote you don't explain anything. Pls have the decency to elaborate.

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    • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    You and I seem to have a different idea of what a Karen is. To me, a Karen is one of those people that has to relentlessly give their unsolicited opinion, relentlessly demand or relentlessly complain

    Arguably, by you explaining why you're downvoting and you demanding explanations of others' downvotes seems to be more Karen-like behavior than those who just downvote and move on

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  • [–] [S] -4 points 2 years ago

    Downvote without explanation...that is what is mean. Is that any helpful? Probably not. What I mean is that an explanation is needed to make any argument. There is no point in just saying no. If it were so I could say that you are wrong about gravity. That is what Trump thives on.

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    • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    This is an incredibly unpopular opinion. Very well done

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    I think so too, although according to the guidelines of this community the many downvotes that this post has racked up should actually indicate that it is a popular opinion. Maybe people haven't read the guideline and downvoted because they don't like the statement. I can only guess since only one person explained in the comments why he had downvoted the post (he was of the opinion that this is a popular opinion).

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    • [–] 5 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    the karen insult has been out of phase since two years ago. Catch up. And nobody owes you a conversation or their time. Especially when you try manipulative trigger shit like this. You’ll end up on block lists everywhere. Enjoy your dead air.

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    • [+] 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)
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  • [+] [S] -21 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    But the reason is rarely to never explained. So i conclude: lots of Karens.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Why do you think the reason needs to be explained at all? Every site that uses an up/down vote system has pretty clear guidelines on how they are meant to be used, so either the user is voting according to those rules, or is using it as a like/dislike button. Commenting is typically reserved for contributing to a conversation, and in most instances, justifying a vote ends up being either noise, or comes off as complaining about Internet points.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago

    On Reddit, I used to go fuckin crazy when people would just reply “This.” Just upvote and move on

    And I know you (yes, you) want to reply “this” to my comment. Knock yourself out

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  • [–] [S] -3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    No one reads any guidelines even if there were any. Do I up- or downvote in this community if I agree to a statement? I just think it would be helpful to know why a post meets so much rejection or consent. I of course get that Lemmy is a reddit clone. But do we really need to make it all the same? I don't think that the most upvoted post on the frontpage is the best post or most usefull in that timeframe. It's just the most upvoted post for a majority of people that do not contribute much but up- and downvotes. This is a Lurker-centric system. But I don't think that there are enough contributors that they would put up with this (+ there are no benefits to do so whatsoever). I just think the merrits of a social media site is it's content. I don't feel that there is much appreciation on here for that.

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    • [–] 3 points 2 years ago*

    Sometimes..

    But sometimes one is just being gaslit.

    It's a spectrum, not a binary-decision.

    There is some truth in what you said.

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    [+] -6 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    Downvoted because I think the opinion is popular / agree with you. 😉 (the voting guidelines here are weird lol)

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  • [+] [S] -12 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I can asure you that it's not.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    And yet? You don't seem to be any sort of authority on the subject, friendo.

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    • [+] [S] -10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    I am commenting on my own post to ask a follow-up question with regard to the statement in the post: Does Lemmy think the statement is popular or not?

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