[β]Vespair@lemm.ee91 points2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)
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I still don't get this; who wants to log onto twitter and see reddit? Or log onto reddit and see twitter?
As somebody who never understood the appeal of twitter, I'm glad my Lemmy isn't clogged up with a bunch of Mastadon content, personally
edit: the likelihood that I'm missing some salient point here is high, so genuinely please educate me on what I'm not understanding
edit 2: Okay, I've read the replies and I get it a little bit more, especially the point about additional ease in growing the Lemmy userbase during this building phase. I'm not sure I'll ever really "get" the appeal, but you all have helped me understand the value to some degree, so thank you.
Out of curiosity, do you use the more mastadon-like microblogging features of kbin? Having almost exclusively used lemmy through a third party app (Sync), I'm curious how well the two kinds of content mesh.
I haven't used the microblogging features, I came from Reddit and mainly wanted to have the same experience. That said, it's as easy as switching between threads and microblog in the sidebar
I feel like people really get too caught up in the interoperability promise of AP. Like yeah, it'd be neat to use my Mastodon account to make comments on PeerTube videos or Pixelfed images without needing to log into yet another server. But a better solution for that would be federated identity servers.
The real joy of AP federation is that there are dozens (hundreds?) of Mastodon servers; so you can build smaller communities with their own rules and moderation, while still allowing those communities to interconnect.
It's true here of course too, there's several popular communities outside the ones on Lemmyworld. So serious answer to the silly question posed in the comic: what can lemmy federated with? Other lemmy instances, also kbin instances.
There's also the joy of open APIs. I can easily write my own application to interface with the services should the desire or need arise. Nobody can suddenly start charging me a fee to access the network or force me to go through their app or server.
I mean, it does not really work, the two services are different in key ways. How would you integrate Twitter-like posts into a Reddit-like community-based site?
It works, not seamlessly but close. Any community is considered to be an account, with any posts made to it considered to be a "tweet". Any comments are replies to the post. A microblog account can post to a community by @ ing it, and reply to comments and posts by... replying to the post.
From lemmy to microfedi doesn't work as well, but you can reply to posts as normal and like by upvoting.
I am underwhelmed by the microblog half of things since that format still boring. Never got twitter either. Still cool to have around if the lemmy stuff drys up for the day.
IMO it makes sense to federate with similar platforms. Mastodon and Firefish, for example. Or Lemmy and Kbin. But there is no point in federating mastodon with Lemmy. The format is so different anyway.
The Fediverse is not one single platform and IMO that is fine.
Thereβs kbin, but even without that, itβs nice to know that a new app can come along and straight away join in the existing βecosystemβ with all its content and users.
Pick any popular platform. There's an OSS version of it. Increasigly, one of those OSS versions supports the ActivityPub spec and, therefore, participate in the fediverse.
There's "can," and the there's "popularly do." This comic sadly - and rather ignorantly - only addresses the latter.
There's an AP federated version of Twitter; of Instagram; of Goodreads; of Blogger - there are bunches of them.
its pretty subjective. i like the mbin interface better in general, but i think the microblog could be ...better managed. realistically the product is still in early stages.
the beauty is, it is actively being worked on by a small community always looking for more devs. i hear a new version is about to drop.
I don't even know what the point of having a decentralized platform is if everyone defederates from each other and congregates in a few instances anyway.
Like you stick Timmy the MAGA nut and Bobby the tankie in the same community and somehow they'll all just get along because it's not Reddit.
I think the only upside is you don't need to create as many accounts to engage with multiple communities across the verse, atleast until heavy moderation kicks in preventing this in the future.
For the exact reason so many of us had come here with recent rules changes that reddit have adopted.
Here on lemmy it would be relatively painless to move to a new instance if lemmy.world suddenly decided to ban the capital letter B. But if Spez thought it might increase his IPO, there wouldn't be much you can do about it.
Yeah but whats the difference between switching instances when the admins get totalitarian vs switching forums. I don't really understand the benefit of Lemmy because it still encourages the same behavior as Reddit. Yeah you can move to another instance but that's exactly like switching forums on the old web.
I believe what will eventually happen is all the biggest instances will have a small number of whitelisted instances that can be interacted with and that's it. Everything will be tightly controlled among the larger instances.
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