Even though different Linux distros are often fairly close in terms of real-life performance and all of them have a clear advantage over Windows in many use cases, we can't reject the fact that Arch Linux has undoubtedly won the competition. And now I'm so glad to have another reason to proudly say "I use Arch btw"

::: It was a joke of course :::

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[–] 48 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (8 children)

Jesus

Installation size:

Fedora  - 7.7 GB

Arch (actually EndeavourOS) - 45 GB

Ubuntu - 49.2 GB

Windows - 72 GB

How the hell is Fedora so small? That's insane.

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  • [–] 53 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    He just look at how much empty space the file explorer showed... I don't know how good of an indication that it is. The OS may choose to conserve a decent amount of space for things like swap, hibernation file etc.

    Also, preinstalled apps.

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  • [–] 40 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    What are these sizes from? All my Linux installs start with <20G root disks and end up with some spare.

    And Windows at 72G? Whilst it's more than Linux it's not that much.

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  • [–] 31 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    I think the videomaker may be failing to account for swap space. The latest Fedora releases use zram (swap that lives in memory instead of hard disk) by default, while the rest do not. Windows in particular does not take 72G and tends to be aggressive in swap allocation. The fact that he presents this data as “free space available” adds confusions while seemingly burying the simplest answer.

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  • [–] 35 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    How the hell is arch so large? My laptop is only 27GB and that includes all user data and several years of crap being installed as well as several docker images. A fresh install should rival that fedora install.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    7GB is a reasonable size for a Linux install with a GUI and some software. The rest are excessively large. I've never gone over 30GB of disk usage in my root partition, even with a large number of programs installed.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    It seems quite likely that, in the Arch ( EOS ) system at least, a tonne of that space is being used up by the package cache. By default, the system keeps copies of the packages for all software you install. This can indeed take gigs of space but it has nothing to do with your running system. A simple command purges them all and reclaims the space. You would obviously want to do this before reporting installation size. I bet he did not.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago

    Ya, I am not going to trust anything coming out of a post that cites that numbers for install size. As others have said, even the Windows one is bonkers.

    As an EOS user myself, I love the conclusion but have no faith at all in the methodology.

    If you want an article to make Linux look good, a test of the new Damn Small Linux would be interesting. It fits a basic version of practically every program you need into a 700 MB system. It also includes the APT package manager and full access to the Debian 12 stable repos so you can easily add anything you want on top of that.

    It would be interesting to know what footprint it would require to run the “tests” he runs here.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    My guess will be hibernation file and swap. If any of those had suspend to disk enabled, the hibernation file will be the same size as installed Ram... which can take up a good percentage of that used space. I have a pretty bloated xUbuntu install on my system right now and it's sitting at 10.6GB. Including swap and /home, but no hibernation file.

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  • [–] 32 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Good intentions but many of these tests are arbitrary and flawed.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Where'd you get that image? I made that 7 or 8 years ago. Has it been making the rounds? It's weird to see it in the wild lol

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    I did, yeah. I thought the original flowchart was really childish and cringy so I made this and posted it on some Linux circlejerk sub on reddit. It didn't get any traction, I'm shocked to see it pop up years later. I guess somebody must have liked it

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    Windows wouldn't be too terrible if it wasn't for all the pop ups all the time.

    I need to work with it because I need to create a WPF app with Visual Studio, and when I switch from Windows to my personal computer, the difference is mind blowing.

    Windows push you fucking add with a notification sound. It's probably on me that I didn't disable yet, but I don't have to do that on any Linux distro.

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    [–] 13 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    How is fedora 2x faster in video rendering? I don't get the huge gaps between the Linux distros in general. Like arch being 20% slower in php and Ubuntu 20% faster in kernel compilation

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago

    Different distros build their packages with different options and have different versions of those packages so the Ubuntu and fedora php packages might have an optimization the arch one didn't

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    [–] 11 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Windows just losing in nearly every metric. Why am I not surprised? However fedora? What's going on?

    CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

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    [–] [B] 6 points 2 years ago

    Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

    https://piped.video/fS8_4GDDJrY

    Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago

    Where OpenSUSE? :(

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago

    God damn Arch users. /s

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Does anyone have a similar video but only for graphics. I want to know more about the floating point ops, OpenGL and DirectX with Wine compared across those 4.

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