Apple being Apple again. Just why does anyone actually like that company?

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[–] 164 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Man, they're seething against the EU, totally pissed that the legislators worked against their abuse over developers and rubbed against their cash cow.

Apple is all about money and fucking the user, being no different from Meta or Google. All they have is shinier hardware.

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  • [–] [S] 70 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    Much worse than Google IMO, at least when it comes to fucking with rules made by EU. Google usually tries to appeal legally and if it doesn't work out, they do what they must. This Apple bulshittery with 3rd party app stores is a new one. Someone here in this thread said that the worst EU can do to companies breaking DMA is forcing them to sell the division. I would love for Apple to push EU that far.

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    [–] 91 points 2 years ago (18 children)
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    [–] 85 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Third party browser & JavaScript engine + ability to install web apps on the Home screen = third party app store that doesn’t have to pay Apple’s fees.

    When Apple could force everyone to use Apple’s WebKit, web apps didn’t matter as much as Apple could limit WebKit features to push people to the App Store. E.g. it took ages to get push notifications on WebKit. If Google and Mozilla are free to make whatever improvements to their browser engines, the need to have native apps on the phone decreases considerably.

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  • [–] 64 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Just why does anyone actually like that company?

    I mean, if Google weren't shit, I'm sure Android would be more viable. They've can't even keep a consistent brand! They've gone from Google Play this and that, to migrating everything - including podcasts - to YouTube.

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  • [–] 88 points 2 years ago (10 children)

    migrating everything - including podcasts - to YouTube

    If only there were other apps for podcasts on Android, it would be a viable operating system.

    Google is kind of crap, but Android has a lot more built-in escape hatches than iOS does. People don't seem to use them as much as I'd hoped, but they're available.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Fuck google buy a google pixel then put grapheneos on it

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  • [–] 38 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    Fuck Google

    Give them money

    Is there another option?

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  • [–] 45 points 2 years ago (17 children)

    I moved from android to iphone 2 years ago. As soon as this piece of crap dies, I'm moving back to android.

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    [–] 41 points 2 years ago

    Aah, the security again...

    Fuck this company

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  • [–] 41 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    Welp, this might be kbin for me. It’s the only circumstance I’ve really found a PWA necessary, although I’ve considered making PWAs of some online shops I frequent.

    I suspect Apple is eliminating PWAs from safari in the EU just because they don’t want to be forced to allow 3rd party browsers to do the same. Let’s go ahead and throw the baby out with the bathwater.

    I’ve actually got a U.S. apple account on an iPhone bought in Japan, and living in the EU temporarily. It’ll be interesting to see how this is going to play out for me.

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  • [–] 35 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Apple really sucks hard! What a terrible company! 🤮🤮

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  • [–] 31 points 2 years ago

    As a sysadmin and self-hoster this decision will absolutely make me drop Apple 150%. A clean and well implemented pwa was a big reason I have stuck with my iPhone 12 despite buying a pixel 7. I know there are options on Android but they all have issues either in ux or in ui that makes it very obvious I’m using a pwa.

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  • [–] 30 points 2 years ago* (13 children)

    This is a Reddit-style circle jerk. A LOT of people like Apple, because even though they’re almost as remorseless as Amazon or Microsoft or Google when it comes to maximizing profits, they build good products, create new product categories, and they’ve been doing both of those things for 40 years.

    Is this a sleazy thing to do? Yup. Is it as sleazy as Meta intentionally allowing its algorithm to push softcore kiddie porn to teen Instagram users? Nope. Not even in the same ballpark.

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    [–] 29 points 2 years ago

    Whoever buys apple shit will learn eventually. Or just go extinct.

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  • [–] 29 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    Some services, like Facebook Gaming, use web apps as a way to get around the Apple App Store and its fees.

    Smell coming out from this little hole here :)

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    [–] 27 points 2 years ago

    Another reason to keep hating apple. Fascists corporate america

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  • [–] 24 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    Queue the Apple dick riders defending their precious megacorp from being a POS company

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    [–] 24 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Holy shit if this is true it will be a game changer for me . Will be start looking android devices. Such a retrograde movement!

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    [–] 17 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    The probably couldn't afford the development /s

    But on the positive side, Apple is now forced to allow other app stores on all phones in the EU.

    So that's probably a bigger win than this is a loss.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Apple being Apple again. Just why does anyone actually like that company?

    Marketing and build quality goes a long way to making people feel like a company is good.

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    [–] 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I was starting to love pwa... But this is going to kill the momentum it was starting to have 😢

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  • [–] [S] 19 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Well, let's hope EU fines them all the way to bankruptcy (I know that's not gonna happen, but one can dream).

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