I mean like why? Just open and update when I'm done that's what every other browser does. Stop making me wait to use the Internet firefox!

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[–] 102 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Would you prefer:

“Firefox Updater

This app is preventing shutdown”

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago (3 children)
  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Yeah, no reason not to. Takes only a couple of seconds to boot, and everything is reset to a clean state.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    I started using Windows 11 in December 2023 and tried to just use sleep. My 🔋 drained fast while my 💻 was on sleep. I expected it. AMD and Intel processors generally aren't as efficient as the Apple M soc.

    While it was on sleep, there were times it suddenly needed to restart.

    I once had a blue screen of death too.

    So now, I shut it down most of the time. Windows 11 boot-ups and shutdowns are surprisingly fast. :)

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    [–] 40 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    The better approach would be to prepare the update in the background and swap out the version on the next start

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  • [–] 26 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    Isn't that what it does? That's how it works on macOS, and I get prompted to restart on Linux when I install updates in the background.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I'm on Windows and I don't recall the last time I was inconvenienced by a Firefox update. Like... I can't even remember what it actually does. OP must be running it on a potato or something.

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  • [–] 40 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Go to options. Scroll halfway down the page. Firefox gives you the choice to change updates from automatic to whenever you want.

    https://i.imgur.com/NxpbIH4.png

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  • [–] 34 points 2 years ago

    I disagree. Software not terminating immediately is grounds for uninstallation. It should update silently while it runs.

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  • [–] 29 points 2 years ago* (3 children)

    Ubuntu has an even better approach. It updates silently while you are using it. Then your tab crashes. And when you retry it tells you to restart firefox. Truly genius *cheffs kiss

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago

    As an Arch user. I wanted to use Arch at work too. Well, they want me to use Kubuntu (or any other prefered Ubuntu, but I like KDE so I do what every other dev uses)... except for Home Office ofc. Arch.

    Still. I hate this stupid update thing. Suddenly I get 20 notifications of KDE system wanting a reboot because of updates and Firefox doing exactly this.

    The worst. When I open a new tab by middleclicking a link, the tab crashes. I restart Firefox and the new Tab is gone forever. Sometimes its easy to get what I saw but not always.

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  • [–] 25 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    You guys close your browser? Weird

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  • [–] 21 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I'm not really hankering for that 4 seconds it takes to restart.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    It matters more when you clear history and cookies automatically at close. You lose your entire session.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    You've not used it on linux I guess. Update at some random point in time while you use it. Now I understand why it does it, but it's just horrible terrible unforgivable.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Yes, it's done by the package and when you configure it to, which in practice is right now.

    Actually, that's one of the things Ubuntu got right with Snap (hate is as much as you want). They install the new version in the background without interrupting your flow. The next time, you close Firefox and choose to open it again....tada... it's the new version.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Would installing Firefox on winget solve OPs problem, assuming they are on Windows?

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago

    Not likely. Windows doesn’t like modifying open files, so the installer would probably request you close Firefox. Linux will happily change the in-use files underneath the browser, Firefox notices and prompts you to restart the browser when you open a new tab.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago

    I don't think I've ever noticed Firefox updating. The only sign I get that it updates is that when it does a special tab opens telling me about the new features.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    This is what I hate on school computers, and it drives people away from Firefox.
    You don't have admin privilege, you can't update, so don't even try.
    I always disable auto-updates on those.

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    [–] 6 points 2 years ago

    Just use a a package manager

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago

    Applications updating themselves... must be a Windows thing. Didn't they want to copy package management from Linux? Maybe AI can help.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    I see it like thank you that i don't have to go to Mozilla website and download the installer. So much time saved, and it only takes like 5 second without manually doing anything. On Linux i saw please restart Firefox tab and clicked it. No problem. I got the update fast.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    Went not just disable automatic updates? Update when you have time for it.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    My issue with FF's auto update is that the behavior is how painfully the auto-update works with multiple profiles.

    I'll have one window (well three) open for some (measurable in days) time.

    1. FF updates silently, I haven't restarted my browser so I haven't noticed.
    2. I go to open a session in the second (or third profiles)
    3. FF decides now is a great time to apply the update, after all it just opened right?
    4. All the existing open browsing sessions in the other profiles get bricked. The tabs just stop responding, no browsing works, just dead in the water.

    I have to shut it (all?) down to get it working again.

    I don't know how Chrome handles this so I cannot compare. TBH still worth using FF over that adware!

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