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Like clockwork (lemmy.ml)
submitted 4 days ago by [M] to c/ManufacturingConsent@lemmy.ml
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[–] 44 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Alleged Hamas-linked group.. bruh, can't name this group right in the title so people will call your BS and move on?

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    • [–] 30 points 4 days ago (1 child)

    Not discriminating muslim people is antisemitic

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    • [–] 18 points 3 days ago

    "alleged hamas-linked"

    Scumbag: BLM donates to Hamas! BLM donates to El-Sayed! El-Sayed is Hamas! I am do muchy logicing with my smarts brian.

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    [–] 11 points 3 days ago

    Every employee at the New York Post suspected to have alleged confirmed ties to Jeffrey Epstein organization.

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    [–] 20 points 4 days ago (1 child)

    meanwhile taking millions from AIPAC, money directly linked to apartheid and genocide, is just business as usual.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    What is aipac

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  • [–] 7 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    American Israel Public Affairs Committee

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  • [–] 2 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    What the hell is the America Israel public affairs committee?

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  • [–] 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

    It's a lobby organization in favor of the state of Israel. They spend significant amounts of money on elections, to favor the side that best represents Israels interest.

    Edit: thanks for asking the question. So Wikipedia said they were founded after the backlash against Israel for their Qibya massacre. Which is when Israel decided to massacre a small village to make a statement ("kill any Jew and we will kill 20 of yours", I guess). And the world was actually outraged. Also the guy who led the operation would later become the prime minister of Israel. And the government of Israel communicated the obvious lie that they had nothing to with this heinous crime...

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    • [–] 12 points 3 days ago

    Just wait, I'm sure he also had a whole caravan of illegal immigrants shipped in to give him extra votes too 🙄

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    [–] 10 points 4 days ago

    I fully support Hamas

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    [–] 6 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    Mehdi Hasan is a war profiteer.

    I hate Arab AOC.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    I don't understand why his tweets keep getting posted here, Fuck this guy he had a friendly debate with Eylon Levy

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  • [–] 5 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    My understanding, after talking to @geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml last time is that this space is more about taking pot shots to agitate liberals rather than following principles regarding sources or language.

    I also think a lot of imperialist people make a fuss about sources so the general reply is that we should just ignore.

    I don't make a fuss about random anonymous twitter accounts, but Mehdi Hasan is an actual war profiteer with blood on his hands. He is brown Piers Morgan. Would we post Piers Morgan? Idk.

    I am tired.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    I would 100% post Piers Morgan.

    90% of Piers the last 3 years is Piers putting on a clown hat and giving Palestine activists an open goal to score. Then he posts a short of it and everyone in the comments dunks on him. I'm quite certain Piers is doing it on purpose. Over the past 3 years Piers Morgan has been a much better ally to the Palestinian cause than Mehdi Hasnake.

    That said Mehdi is on the Chomsky tier of calling out propaganda. As long as you don't subscribe to his ideology of voting Democrat for the 9000th time as the solution to all your problems he has a lot of valid takes.

    I can find issues with every online content creator. I've even got this person in my inbox who has large issues with people who aren't even Democrat plants like Mehdi Hasnake https://lemmy.ml/post/51050025/27110323

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  • [–] 1 point 3 days ago (1 child)

    I can find issues with every online content creator.

    This is a lazy and disingenuous response.

    I expected better.

    he has a lot of valid takes

    Reducing the blood of the martyrs to "takes" is a systematic issue I also find bizarre and uncomfortable.

    I must be insane that the struggle of Palestine has been reduced to a talking point.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    What's been reduced to a talking point here? Do you only post takes of people you 100% ideologically align with and who would those be?

    Recently we even had Ali Abumanah, Rania Khalek and others celebrating the wins of milquetoast Liberal Zionists I wouldn't call allies to the Palestinians cause but I'm not going to stop posting their content either.

    Mehdi is an opportunist Liberal who isn't pushing the overton window for sure but he does occasionally say some valid stuff. Takes like these calling out Jewish Exceptionalism in media reporting are still quite rare these days

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  • [–] 1 point 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 child)

    You're confusing me with someone else. I specifically said Mehdi Hasan in particular. This isn't about random twitter users

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 3 days ago (1 child)

    Ali Abumanah and Rania Khalek aren't random Twitter users.

    My view is that posting a Mehdi Hasnake quote is no different than posting a BBC article if that makes any sense. Coincidentally Mehdi used to work for the BBC as well.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 days ago* (1 child)

    Ali Abumanah and Rania Khalek

    Ali Abumanah is a real journalist who doesn't spread explicitly anti-Resistance and pro-genocide propaganda and therefore not comparable to this dirtbag.

    The twitter user comment was because you keep trying to expand the conversation beyond scope.

    I just don't understand what is so difficult about this.

    Don't worry I will stay out of your mentions now. Im tired

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 2 days ago*

    IIRC Ali Abumanah celebrated Liberal Zionist Brad Lander winning in NYC. (Brad Lander invested millions of dollars into Elbit Systems.)

    And Rania Khalek praised Graham Platner...

    Of course they're both not Mehdi Hasnakes but the point is that discrediting valid points especially when nobody else is making them just because they also did some bad thing isn't really helping. Not to claim they're the same as Hasnake.

    Only Assal Rad, Alan MacLeod and Mehdi Hasan frequently make original relevant posts calling out media manipulation so there's really not that many options to pick from.

    There are users which I wouldn't post, such as Shahiel Ben Ephraim. A known Israeli agent trying to infiltrate the Palestine movement. But that's because Shahiel doesn't actually create any content worthy of posting. He just reposts other people's work with the "as an israeli this is rly bad!!" appended to it..

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    • [–] 6 points 4 days ago

    Took money from Hamas? That's awful.
    Everyone should be giving money to these brave freedom fighters.

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    [–] 4 points 4 days ago (2 children)

    I don't know anything about this guy, are those allegations false?

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  • [–] 19 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 child)

    Kind of false kind of true, 100% overblown smear campaign. The donations came from people who are members of CAIR (center for American and Islamic relations). A group pegged as a terrorist organization in Florida, Texas, and the United Arab Emirates (which to me is a green flag in CAIR's favor, lol)

    They've vocally opposed Israel's invasion and supported Hamas in defending Palestinians but have historically denounced Hamas terrorist actions.

    So, yeah, they're Hamas linked, but in a "they're the people fighting Israeli occupation" kind of way.

    Edit to add: as far as I can tell the donations were personal donations by people who happen to be members of CAIR, not from CAIR itself even. Making it even more overblown smear when compared to, say, 60 million straight from AIPAC that others had received

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