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[–] 104 points 1 week ago* (2 children)

This isn’t a clever loophole – – this is Trump making sure that only billionaires can profit, and the rest of us are all fucked

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  • [–] 5 points 1 week ago

    It doesn't actually seem that way. They're likely eating the tariff because of the costs of hardware redesign, which I would imagine to cost millions and a lot of testing time.

    If they're getting a volume discount of 10%, then after tarrif each vehicle is probably cheaper than a whole refab.

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  • [–] 72 points 1 week ago* (2 children)

    The Best of Both Worlds!

    I love a national Monopsony.

    Also... Archive.is link

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  • [–] 27 points 1 week ago*

    All of the cost, none of the equity. Just as capitalism demands.

    Distributed burden, with the profits for the few.

    What did we do with the railroad barons again? And where’s their privatised cutting-edge tech??

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  • [–] 49 points 1 week ago

    "Free enterprise for me and none for thee."

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  • [–] 47 points 1 week ago

    Remember. Waymo is Google.

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  • [–] 38 points 1 week ago*

    yeah... sure... so very worried about "national security" that security risks can only be used by government employees, big corporations, and in federal buildings but not in private homes... yeah sure... that's secure. Really feeling the security of the nation here... NOT.

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    [–] 20 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    silly goose, corporations make their own rules

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    [–] 9 points 1 week ago* (1 child)
    • Paywall
    • As the article says, Americans can buy them, but you'll have to pay 127.5% Republican tariffs.
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  • [–] 9 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    Yup no $8k economy cars.. You'll buy that$30,000 truck and like it

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  • [–] 8 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    At least til recently, Waymo here in California was using modified Jaguars. IDK if they started out as Jaguar EV's or if they were ICE cars converted by Waymo. But they are everywhere in SF and also seen in other parts of the region.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 week ago

    They are Jaguar I-Pace EVs. They were natively EV to begin with. Waymo actually purchased large chunks of them through 2026, but with Jaguar basically committing suicide they needed another vehicle to work with.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 week ago (6 children)

    Does this have to do with safety regulations or something? Like what is the reasoning behind it? Because I heard these Chinese cars dont have good safety regulations

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  • [–] 16 points 1 week ago*

    only to some extent, it's not like the safe models aren't being blocked. I think for example, the BYD Dolphin was redesigned to meet australian compliance.

    Chinese companies are willing to redesign for saftey, but the government of course has other plans.

    Basically some chinese cars by their direct chinese design, might not pass US safety standards. However china has shown they are willing to modify designs to enter the market. the only reason why they aren't in the US market is because the government wont let them. Corporate has been using chinese evs (and trucks) and buses, for awhile now.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    It has to do with the cars talking to each other and perhaps eavesdropping on other vehicles, etc.

    https://www.bis.gov/press-release/commerce-finalizes-rule-secure-connected-vehicle-supply-chains-foreign-adversary-threats

    Washington, D.C. – Today, the U.S. Department of Commerce’s Bureau of Industry and Security (BIS) announced a final rule prohibiting certain transactions involving the sale or import of connected vehicles integrating specific pieces of hardware and software, or those components sold separately, with a sufficient nexus to the People’s Republic of China (PRC) or Russia.

    BIS and its Office of Information and Communications Technology and Services (OICTS) have found that certain technologies originating from the PRC or Russia present an undue and unacceptable risk to U.S. national security. Today’s action represents the culmination of a months-long regulatory process to design, seek public input on, and ultimately finalize a measure to protect drivers and passengers on American roads.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    According to them. Meanwhile we know GM and friends are doing it. (link)

    This is TikTok all over again, accuse China of the stuff American companies are already doing, and selling the data to China anyways. (link)

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago*

    Just like Waymo, you pay a 127.5% tariff. Americans can buy Chinese EVs; the title is simply a lie that is refuted by the very first paragraph of the exact same article.

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