97
Trump Backs Away From Deal to Let Ukraine Build Patriot Missiles (www.nytimes.com)
submitted 2 weeks ago by to c/ukraine@sopuli.xyz
16 comments fedilink hide all child comments

all 16 comments

sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] 28 points 2 weeks ago

Sounds like sumbuddy gotta call from Putin.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
    •
    [–] 23 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    I'm so sorry our leadership and about 40% of our people are total trash

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • hideshow 4 child comments
    •
  • [–] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    Same problem nearly everywhere worldwide.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
    •
    • [–] 16 points 2 weeks ago

    Because of course he does

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
    •
    [–] 16 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    What Krasnov doesn’t understand is that if the US doesn’t let Ukraine build Patriots, that won’t result in Russian air superiority over Kyiv and Trump Org deals with Moscow about Kiev real estate. It will result in Ukraine and Europe developing their own interceptors and cutting their dependence on ones the US can restrict or extract profits from.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • hideshow 2 child comments
    •
  • [–] 6 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    That’s already under development but it takes years to build such capability.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
    •
  • [–] 8 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    It’ll take a few years to build a production line for Patriot missiles as well, so it the short term benefit was mostly political. Trump’s flip-flop however will result in long term political consequences and a loss of deterrence for US allies.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
    •
  • [–] 4 points 1 week ago

    And the US giving Ukraine a license to make Patriots could have had the effect of diverting resources from the sovereign interceptor programme to the tried and tested one, ensuring US influence and licensing revenue for years to come, not to mention reducing the risk of competition in the export market (the Ukrainian-European venture that makes whatever replaces Patriot will have ready export markets for it, in Taiwan/Japan/the Philippines and the Persian Gulf to name two regions).

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
    • [–] 13 points 2 weeks ago

    taco strikes again

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
    •
    [–] 8 points 2 weeks ago

    as infuriating as it was expected

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
    •
    [–] 4 points 2 weeks ago

    Putin is Trump's daddy

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
    •
    [–] 1 point 1 week ago

    Putin is Trump's daddy

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
    •
    [–] 0 points 1 week ago

    Not a real problem for Ukraine since they are developing a better system on their own which will be cheaper and operational even faster.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
    •