That for sure is an unpopular opinion and I also strongly disagree.

So, take my upvote ;-)

Apart from that, In my experience there is such an incredibly large pool of great music I haven't even heard yet, that the avalanche of AI generated music does not even improve the useful quantity for an individual in a significant way, not even talking about the quality.

I can’t believe nobody’s called you out on not knowing what “objectively” means yet.

I have a very pragmatic view on music

You're quite self aware in your assessment, you just don't realize that being "pragmatic" about music is like being "efficient" about sex; you're doing it wrong.

Unpopular, yes, but also an objectively wrong use of objectively. Subjectively you find that music enjoyable, but objectively it's a statistical average of the bog standard crap you can find on on basically any radio station. Nobody can stop you from enjoying that, but don't think it makes your personal taste anything other than statistically average.

I must upvote, your opinion is more revolting than surstromming.

Please don’t neglect humans in your musical choices. Were it not for human artists, your stolen-music copy-pasting Frankenstein-maker won’t work. :)

Well, we've got a truly unpopular one, kudos for that

The fun thing about this being tightly bound to the subjective is there's not really any golden argument that can be made; some people are going to keep ordering pizza hut and saying they love it, even if literally any option is better from everyone else's perspective.

In your choice of using it for background music, I personally would always choose an actual curated list, ideally mixed by an actual DJ. There's a lifetime of that content on YouTube already, so I never have to have the same one on twice, and usually if you like the vibe at the start of the mix, the DJ carries it through. Also a great way to discover new music that you can then go and look into the artist and find more stuff, maybe even go and see a show.

With an AI playlist, that's it, there's nothing further that can happen, it's literally just filling the space. Which is fine, but I guess I just see that as a wasted opportunity if anything

Congrats, you have an average taste in music?

AI are statistical algorithms. The current design means they can only ever be average.

Downvoting not for the unpopular opinion, but for not knowing what "objective" means

jesus man, music - art - is about feeling something. what the fuck

You don’t like music, you like Muzak, and you have garbage taste.

This is definitely an unpopular opinion.

I tend to listen to music for how it feels, not just how it sounds, and if I even suspect a track is AI made I feel like someones trying to shovel dog shit into my mouth.

I guess you could equate it to you eating food just for the taste, but I eat food for the taste, smell and nutritional value.

Man this is the worst fucking take I've heard all week

Have my upvote

Wow. Horrible take. Unpopular for a reason. Upvoted.

I don't think you like music. Or even understand music.

That's ok, you don't have to, but you do not know what you're talking about.

Out of curiosity, can you tell me a human artist or band that you really like?

Gross

I want it to sound good

I like AI music

Buddy, no

Ethics aside, can you not hear the noise and artifacts in the vocals? The repeptitive overuse of the same reverb? The heavy handed compression?

AI music keeps showing up in my "stations" and I have to instantly skip. It's just awful and they cannot fix it because they trained the models with highly compressed music from Spotify and it "learned" that compression nouse artifacts are a natural part of music, so now it reproduces and exaggerates them every time.

It’s IP theft.

This is an interesting take, tbh. I tried to ask myself how you got here, and in doing so I had to ask "what are you getting out of AI music?" And I think I surprised myself a bit with the answer.

Ultimately I think the rise of generative AI is going to make the line between art and kitsch clearer.

Back to my question, I personally get so much out of art - so many songs have brought me to tears, or changed my perspective on a topic, or related to me when I felt alone.... But I've also bobbed my head along to plenty of soulless low-effort club tracks and what not. I'm finding it hard to argue to myself that the four-on-the-floor generic beat shitted out in 5 minutes in Acid Loops or Cakewalk is any less soulless than a similarly prompted AI track.

But ultimately I would consider both to be kitsch. I've said similar before and it's ruffled some feathers, so let me try again to clarify: Kitsch is not bad. Kitsch is good and kitsch has a place. But kitsch is not art.

I think generative AI is a toy. It's a like one of those automated child's pianos. You can absolutely have a silly good time goofing around on an automated child's piano for an hour, and if anyone told you that you were wrong for enjoying your time they'd be an idiot.

But you didn't really make art.

So enjoy your AI kitsch, and do it guilt free. If you're just looking for shit to bob your head to, it's really hard for me to argue that AI music can't accomplish that goal.

I'm fine with that. Just don't start calling it art.

all I care about is whether it sounds good or not

"I don't care about anyone but me or anything except for what I want"

You sound selfish and insufferable.

This is a very good unpopular opinion. It's actually unpopular and outs the user as an AI bro who wouldn't know how to make a decent beat to save their life.

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Hey, I get it, you just have zero respect for the effort, creativity, imagination, or sacrifice that an artist has to put in to create a work thats any good. To you, art is merely a product. Who cares who made it, how it was made, or what it even means, or if there was any meaning at all.
I totally understand. I went to the store yesterday and they had this hand crafted chair made of high quality wood for sale for like $300. Fuck that! I'll just go buy a cheap plastic piece of garbage chair pumped out by the thousands in a Chinese factory. I mean it's just a chair, right? It has one job, who cares what it's made of. "Quality, Shmality!" I say.
I just wish more people would understand this, like I entered this fighting game tournament last month. But I'm really ass at Street Fighter, so instead I wrote this bot that would play the game for me so I'd win with double perfect every time. Can you belive they kicked me out for cheating? CHEATING! What kind of shit is that? I just used a helpful tool to totally do all the work for me as my only contribution was giving broad parameters while the computer program makes literally every other decision. The audacity of these people! Don't they understand this makes me a champion gamer?

Just sucks the ai learned it by stealing. Valid take though, I guess. It feels a lot like saying, "factory farming is great for me. All I care about is meat that tastes decent. That's it."

It violates my sense of decency that you think a communicative medium can be replaced by something that can't communicate.

... You get a upvote but I'll be mad the entire time doing it

I hate every sentence I just read. Take the upvote. AI music is the music for people who say they like all kinds of music. Music with no taste. Its like saying you could cook a potato a million ways but your favorite is raw.

Edit: since the music you posted is a pale imitation of trip hop please listen to something with some artistic value that might make you feel something.

Congrats. I hate this opinion, so it fits!

Unpopular opinion checks out.

I don't think "this thing is good" while ignoring the before and after context is a good policy. Presumably if there were very comfortable shoes made of baby skin and manufactured by child slaves, you would not wear them. (Or maybe you would!)

That's a very hyperbolic example, but my point remains that for everyone there is a line somewhere. For you, the AI stuff is on the acceptable side.

You can choose to ignore that and come tell me about the ethics of using AI [...] just note that you’re no longer addressing what I’m actually saying here.

So, right. It's a big thing you're ignoring. AI probably can make competent music and, if research continues, will probably improve. But the ethics and surrounding stuff still exist. People often don't want to just ignore that.

AI music is objectively good

Asserting a point of view about art — an inherently subjective medium — all while claiming that it's objective is probably one of the most blatantly idiotic things a person can possibly say and stand behind. And that's not even mentioning how you're literally on a community all about opinions.

Regardless you definitely posted this in the right place so credit where credit's due I suppose. Enjoy your algorithmically-generated slop. A poorly-made piece of art with real human soul and intent behind it will always be infinitely better than even the best possible "creation" of the product of automated theft and assembly of human knowledge and creation.