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[–] 14 points 4 hours ago (1 child)

TIL Chernobyl has been re categorised as an oopsie

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  • [–] 88 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (5 children)

    Yeah I like the sentiment, but no Chernobyl absolutely did not have such a small effect. Minimizing these things, especially when so well known, just fucks up our position. Reality denial isn't an effective way to advocate or to make people aware of the horrors of capitalism. All it does is train the average person to assume left wing points are childishly exaggerated. This is, in part, why capitalist propaganda is so easy.

    Here we just accept the official number and ignore all other effects. If we took the same path with the Bhopaal disaster, we'd have to ignore all the non-fatal poisonings and believe uncritically the official instant death count of just over 2,200 ignoring any deaths to come afterwards. That would be stupid

    Chernobyl was a terrible disaster that harmed an absurd amount of people, de-homed thousands, and damaged the ecosystem of the wider area. Its effects and danger are still present to this day and could have been much, much worse if not for the work of those who fixed the massive fuck up.

    Both the Bhopal disaster and the Chernobyl disaster were bred by incompetence, corruption, and a general failure to care for the worker and the general population.

    Now, if we were to keep a leaderboard, capitalism wins by many miles in the awfulness department. That's the note we should take, that's the drum we should beat.

    It wasn't socialism that caused Chernobyl. If the workers, those who built and conceived of the soviet nuclear reactors, were in charge they would have put in the safe guards they advocated for well before this disaster. They were not allowed to and the consequence was a meltdown. That's why we should give the power to the worker. The Bhopal disaster? Capital was the determiner for who had power, and those in power caused the disaster. It was the fault of capitalism as capitalism was allowed to build Union Carbide with little in its way.

    Edit: Changed Russian to soviet, re-aranged paragraphs, added clarity

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  • [–] 5 points 4 hours ago

    My dad had just gotten me a hamster and we fed it lettuce that was affected. Fuckers killed my hamster. I'm just glad I didn't eat it I guess. Poor little guy, I was heartbroken.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 hours ago

    If the workers, those who built and conceived of the soviet nuclear reactors, were in charge they would have put in the safe guards they advocated for well before this disaster. They were not allowed to and the consequence was a meltdown. That’s why we should give the power to the worker.

    if this can't happen in a communist nation, what hope is there for any other worker?

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  • [–] 5 points 4 hours ago

    I learned about that on the Discovery Channel… but okay.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 hours ago*

    Union Carbide Productions

    Awesome 90s underground rock

    We remember

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JNkpkkulKcg&ra=m

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  • [–] 8 points 5 hours ago (1 child)

    UCC had participated in decades of previous instances of "environmental negligence in every part of the world", directing its "responsibility… to its shareholders", and numerous dealings with local and international political and economic powers.

    Wait_its_all_about_shareholders_Always_has_been.jpg

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  • [+] 21 points 7 hours ago
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  • [–] 7 points 6 hours ago

    I guess I'm one of the few.

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  • [–] 8 points 7 hours ago*

    Those are very conservative numbers for Union Carbide.

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