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[–] 55 points 1 week ago (5 children)

literally nobody thought that was the case. this is just holier-than-thou fartsmellery.

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  • [–] 55 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    "Humans are destroying the planet" has been a great way of off-loading the social responsibility aspect from multi-billion dollar gas guzzling AI-generated farts factory to Grandma, who forgot to put out her recycling last week.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    the prefix "some" is implicit there. but also, like, the hundreds of millions of people commuting to work is a bigger problem than the thousands of people driving loud sports cars. it's just that the hundreds of container ships going around the world is a way bigger problem still.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    the hundreds of millions of people commuting to work is a bigger problem than the thousands of people driving loud sports cars

    Sure. But it's not the individual commuters who are setting national transportation policy.

    The folks driving the sports cars (and in the yachts and private jets), on the other hand...

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  • [–] 21 points 1 week ago

    I do agree that this is very rare take from climate activists. Those folks usually know their shit and are pretty radical.

    However, this line of reasoning is definitely a thing among laypersons. It has historical precedent that has its roots in Malthusian population theory.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    are you sure about that? the "oh, humans are so evil, we’re destroying our planet! i wish all humans were dead" sentiment is extremely common

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  • [–] 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    yeah that's called ecofascism. it's about as well thought through an ideology as anarchocapitalism.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    i mean, it has its roots in how we discuss climate change. we call it "human-made", so yes, people will jump to "humanity is to blame for climate change". it’s a very logical leap, and not entirely wrong, even if it doesn’t tell the whole story (which part of humanity is responsible?)

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  • [–] 4 points 1 week ago

    i feel like that part comes naturally. it's pretty easy to go from "i'm trying to help" to "no matter how much i help i can't make a difference because the system makes it useless" to "who designed the system?"

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  • [–] 7 points 1 week ago*

    For climate activists it's very unlikely, but there are people who believe Africans are the issue because of high birth rates, conveniently ignoring that richer countries do the most damage by far.

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  • [–] 46 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    Did someone fucking print this tweet out and then scan it?

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    [–] 37 points 1 week ago (13 children)

    Neither is the average human being anywhere, just trying to survive a hostile narcissistic environment they have no control over

    Rich people are destroying the planet. It's nobody else's fault.

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    [–] 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    In general I just get frustrated with the human slander. No. We're not all evil assholes. We're not stupid. We're a bunch of animals that managed to break out of the normal fight for survival primarily by working together. This all only works because we help each other most of the time. And stupid? Why? Because we don't all individually understand the massively complex world we've created for ourselves?

    The bad people and things that happen are bad because they're exceptional. They break from the norm and aren't representative of the whole of the human experience. It really sucks that some psychos can take advantage of our behaviors to get us to do awful stuff, but the solution to that isn't "Woe is me, humans are just bad. Maybe we should all just go away." Are their victims bad? Do they not deserve to be saved because their oppressors are evil?

    You can't really have any social progress before you recognize that "we can do this" and "we are worth it." Otherwise what would be the point?

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    [–] 14 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    This enemy classification includes the settler/colonialist workers in the Amazon who are working as the frontier of capital accumulation.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    I don't know man. I know some of those kids in Africa, and they don't all prioritize the environment over things like food and shelter.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    That’s humans. Those are human constructs.

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    [–] 9 points 1 week ago

    Yeah, libs have been slipping on the eco-fascism like a pair of custom-made shoes.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    Its easy to criticize, but when you ask for a solution, they've got nothing. Literally zero.

    Except for a large scale die off of humanity.

    something something, the planet can only support 1 billion

    As if 80% population loss is somehow a solution

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    [–] 6 points 1 week ago

    Well akshually, the rising standard and of living in the developing world in general and sub-Saharan Africa in particular means that kids in Africa are contributing to climate change. Now when you ask why kids in Africa can't fuel their improving standards of living with solar panels instead you're going to end up at these things, but still.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    maybe if yall spent less time on wordplay and more time on finding out where these people live something might get done

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  • [–] 5 points 1 week ago

    Don’t confuse can’t with don’t. People are people.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 week ago

    There's one word that combines the three and more.

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