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[–] 84 points 2 months ago (3 children)

That episode was wild. Setting up the big bad monster for the federation to be fighting... then just forgetting all about them.

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  • [–] 51 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    I vaguely recall reading years ago that they were intended to be the initial infiltrator wave of what eventually became the Borg forces. I could be mistaken, since it was around the pre-AOL days.

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  • [–] 39 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    That info is out there for sure, but I've always found it pretty shaky. Here's what Memory Alpha has to say on the subject:

    The Star Trek Chronology, 2nd ed., p. 290 noted: "Although Picard and company were successful in eradicating them, the parasites did send a mysterious radio signal, presumably to others of their kind. At the time the episode was written, this was apparently intended to lead to the introduction of the Borg in Star Trek: The Next Generation's second season. The Borg connection was dropped before "Q Who" (TNG) was written, and the truth about the parasites remains a mystery."

    The "apparently" always trips me up, but maybe there's a more definitive statement or there that I haven't seen.

    It certainly could be true.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    It sounds like a post hoc connection to explain it away, rather than that being that actual intention. I assume we'll probably never know though.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    The truth could be somewhere in the middle - no real intent, but instead just reworking an idea from the Discarded Ideas Drawer into something new.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I'll pop in my blu-rays after I get home from some appointments, see if I can verify anything from the special features.

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  • [–] [S] 7 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I'll pop in my blu-rays too. See if they have any Star Trek on them that I can watch.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    you know what they just might.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I'm pretty sure I saw something on the blu-ray special features about this? It was gonna be too expensive to have the creepy worm alien things as a recurring enemy so they made the Borg as a cheaper alternative.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Too expensive to put one little mark on someone's neck but building Borg suites wasn't eh

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  • [–] 43 points 2 months ago* (3 children)

    they very much kerploded the 'bug queen"

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    Remmik got phasered!

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  • [–] 22 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Yes, the problem was solved.

    listens to the last scene

    Oh no.

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  • [–] 33 points 2 months ago

    yeah it's fine we told starfleet command

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  • [–] 21 points 2 months ago

    Everyone after this: Why are all the admirals jerks and/or evil? So weird.

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  • [–] 21 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah, I dont think they discussed that to anyone after that incident at all. It was a very weird episode. It's like it disappeared from Trek lore.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    So fun fact for anyone that doesn't know, the original concept for the Borg was an insectoid race and this episode was supposed to be the initial lead in to a larger arc introducing them. Several factors, budget and the writers strike in 1988 chief among them, led to the original story being abandoned and eventually the Borg were reworked into what they are today.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Wasn't the queen destroyed at the end of the episode and all the others died because he queen died?

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  • [–] 18 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    I hate the "destroy the central entity and the others will be disabled" trope, so overused in sci-fi

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    I see it used on species that don't have individial identities, where one controls the brood, and for those it makes sense and I don't mind.
    Didn't see this ep so not sure it applies.
    Starship troopers is a good example perhaps, not many others I can think of.
    Star craft 2 did this well IMO, where the brood without mother splits into chaotic disordered groups who are aggressive to everyone.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago

    "He said they sought peaceful co-existence. That was good enough for me!"

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago

    Fucking mind flayers and their grand design!

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Which, when? I grew up with genteel trek enthusiasts and therefore I was not a fan for a long time but always learning

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