It’s lemmygrad, we’re the spectre. I’d bet at least half of the other instances out there block us, there’s only like 300 dedicated users on this instance, and they still can’t stop complaining about lemmygrad/tankies

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[–] 6 points 3 years ago (2 children)

I had an irl conversation the other day which hammered this point home. Westoids cannot psychologically handle being called out on being wrong, not knowing something, and on being prejudiced. That and all the other material reasons we know and discuss regularly mean that this instance, no matter how small, is a thorn in their eye, a spectre haunting their dreams.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child)

    It really is treated as a "sin" to be ignorant of something in the west. Personally, I love not knowing something, because it means I get to learn something, but again, education in the west is treated as "that thing that happens when you're 6-18 and no other time." and refuse to ever try to educate themselves as adults.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (3 children)

    Really shows that liberalism is just a cult at this point. These people see any views outside their own bubble as heretical and become emotionally distraught when their own views are questioned. They're not able to carry a rational discussion or even make an argument. When they engage with others they just follow a call centre style script where they regurgitate the tropes they memorized. The only tactic these trolls use is to brigade and silence views contrary to their own.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    That's an interesting idea. I've said something similar irl, that there's a bourgeois script.

    There's no point arguing with someone who goes into it by default. Especially family members. Not everyone uses it, but for those who do, the only end point is an exchange of insults.

    Good examples are reactionary TV 'news' presenters. They aren't interested in the argument or evidence, only providing their audience with another example to confirm their pre-existing worldview. There's always another quip, another reason why they don't have to consider a new idea. It's infuriating. But when you can recognise it, you'll save yourself a lot of intellectual hardship and emotional pain.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 years ago

    Yeah that's exactly what I realized as well. When you see that people are just regurgitating talking points they memorized, you know there's no meaningful conversation possible and it's best to just move on.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (2 children)

    They would disagree because "lots of people are liberals." Which is, ironically, a common defense a lot of cults use to justify why they aren't a cult.

    The "Call centre" script is pretty fascinating though, reminds me a lot of creationists. You can show them evidence of transitional fossils, biology experiments demonstrating evolution in a lab, it doesn't matter. They'll ask for specific evidence, then when presented with it, find some excuse to ignore it, like tone policing or attacking a source for being "illegitimate" or "biased" without even reading it. And when they can't do that, they'll just ignore the responses and only interact with the people hurling insults because they can dismiss that much more easily than a reasonable argument.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    They'll ask for specific evidence, then when presented with it, find some excuse to ignore it, like tone policing or attacking a source for being "illegitimate" or "biased" without even reading it.

    I've been playing with dropping non-sequitor ridiculous links as "sources" in sincere comments, and I have pretty solid proof that liberals arguing on the internet almost universally do not click the links for sources.

    I've done it quite a bit, and the only people who acknowledge or comment on it are comrades from here.

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    [–] 3 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Its crazy to see all the complaining about tankies, but I hardly see any complaining about exploding heads. Some people supporting Russia over the US is a big deal, but actual fascists passing laws in the US is barely a passing thought. Hating a foreign government more than home grown fascists is an american past time at this point. Shows where the "centrists" and "free speech advocates" sympathies lie.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Lemmygrad: 😴

    Lemmy: "tankie tankie tankie tankie tankie tankie tankie tankie tankie tankie tankie tankie tankie tankie tankie tankie tankie tankie tankie tankie tankie tankie tankie tankie tankie tankie tankie tankie tankie tankie tankie tankie tankie tankie tankie"

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    [–] 2 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    just because it makes libs on federation seethe im pinning this post.

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    [–] 1 point 3 years ago (2 children)

    I thought it was Wisconcom.

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    [–] 1 point 3 years ago (5 children)

    300? We must have ADHD cus we active as hell and I barely participate

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    [–] 1 point 3 years ago (2 children)

    Well I'm reading this on .world so it is not blocked there. I think these days people like to put others in boxes to make it easier to have us vs them.

    Personally I only block spammers and abusive accounts. I consider myself socialist too if that matters.

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Yes, we aren’t blocked by 2 of the biggest instances. I didn’t mean “half the users”, but every time I see a new instance in a username I go check their blocklist and it seems like ~1/2 the time lemmygrad is blocked. You would be welcome to post here even if you weren’t a socialist, you just can’t post capitalism apologia

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