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What are some non-ML movements (past and present) that you guys strongly support? (lemmygrad.ml)
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Me personally, I find the EZLN fascinating. (if there is anything bad about them, let me know because I do not know much bad things about them)

They are one of the few movements that anarchists praise that I actually think are based, although the Zapatistas have told westerners to stop calling them anarchists, communists, or anything else.

They also fight against drug cartels and seem to have created one of the most stable territories in the Chiapas region.

However, they are too small to do anything big like overthrowing the Mexican government. They would be crushed quickly.

Give me your thoughts on the EZLN and/or, as the title suggests, any non-ML movements that you support.

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[–] 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child)

US abolitionist movement

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago* (3 children)

    Did someone legitimately downvote the abolishment movement??? lenin facepalm deng stare

    Dang didn’t know Lemmygrad was pro-slavery /s

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    I blame Wisconcom

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Probably one of those wandering libs.

    Or mistook it for the anti-alcohol one. I know I did, until I read your comment

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child)

    If I remember right prohibition was actually pretty based. Alcohol was a tool of oppression whether in sedating factory proletarians or getting indigenous people drunk to make it easier to steal their land. Manhattan for example means “the place where we all became intoxicated.” Source I vaguely remember:

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago* (1 child)

    Yeah, but prohibition was absolute garbage since everyone was STILL drunk, just now the alcohol supply was owned by the Mob.

    Per one journalist’s study, it took a maximum of 10 minutes for a “tourist” “out of towner” in any city in the US to find alcohol. The record was a 30 seconds when the cab driver of one city immediately pulled out beer from a compartment in the cab when asked where to get alcohol.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    Sure, alcohol wasn’t eliminated, but it was progress. Back before prohibition people drank alcohol like water, and the fact that most don’t anymore is good (not that there aren’t widespread substance abuse problems of other types). I suggest you listen to the Gastropod episode.

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    • [+] 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)
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    It needs to be said that 1916 Ireland and the Starry Plough represented what Lenin called “The First Red Army in Europe”

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    Was that in a speech or a book? Would love to get the full context.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I was hoping I could find it but I can’t, I’d check Marxist Paul’s vid on the Irish Citizen Army, I believe that’s where I first heard Lenin’s saying about the ICA

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    • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Hezbollah and other Palestinian liberation groups

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  • [–] -1 points 3 years ago* (2 children)

    I don't support Hamas or Hezbollah. I only support PFLP.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Hamas is literally working to overthrow a fascist, colonial group trying to commit genocide against their people FFS. There’s such a thing as critical support with Hamas very clearly being preferable in every single way to the Zionists

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago

    I'm not very knowledgable about the occupation of Palestine, but isn't a large reason that Hamas is one of the primary fighters of zionism today due to the zionist state undermining the more radical and left leaning Palestinian liberation groups and/or propping up Hamas? I recall hearing something to that effect but forget the details.

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    • [–] -1 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Lula's worker's party in Brazil, they've done incredible work helping the most impoverished people of the country, and are the most progressive in South America in my book.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (2 children)

    As a Brazilian organized communist,

    Just no. Especially his latest moves. In fact last night he just pushed a provisional measure (a law that can take effect now, go to congress later) to legalize cassinos and other gambling establishments. Effective immediately too

    He's not done any actual reforms, just means tested welfare programs. In fact he privatized a bunch of stuff in his first tenure. He also signed the drug laws that shot incarceration rates sky high (in fact a comrade was arrested for possesing weed and not released for over a year despite not being sentenced).

    His job is making things seem "not all that bad" and keeping the forces of reaction well fed.

    I'm not mad at you for not knowing, but as a Brazilian Communist I am extremely angry at the fact they misled you

    Edit: I can go on and on and if y'all actually want me to. Don't "support" this enemy of our class in front of me again.

    And yes, he's better than the "electorally viable" alternatives, but we have second rounds for election so we vote communist!

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago

    His job is making things seem “not all that bad” and keeping the forces of reaction well fed.

    I suppose he's like the Biden to Bolsanaro's Trump, in that now that the obviously shit guy is out of office, a bunch of people who were mobilized go back to brunch while nothing fundamentally changes?

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    even more than the PSUV? Also, what's the beef between the PSUV and the PCV about?

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    PSUV is not a force for socialism, and as such they seek to destroy those who actually fight for it. In fact the PSUV is actively trying to dismantle the PCV https://pcb.org.br/portal2/30320

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  • [–] -1 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I'm extremely skeptical of the PCV's accusations. After doing like an hour's worth of reading, they seem to likely be a lapdog and trojan horse for CIA regime change, while they accuse the PSUV of being traitors despite the PSUV having little options.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    i think i read an article on UZ about the DKP siding with the PCV

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Something Something, Socdem PSUV gives an inch to the U.S, and the PCV is mad at that... https://www.blackagendareport.com/fight-between-psuv-and-pcv-unnecessary-untimely-and-alien

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    The PSUV does unfortunately take influence from Trotsky, but its explained they take more influence from Venezuelan culture and history, and they limit their use of violence if they deem it unecessary.

    I've also spent an hour reading PCV's accusations and their history, and I'm extremely skeptical of them. They seem to be annoying contrarian naive tools for U.S. imperialism.

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    • [–] -1 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Lukashenko's administration is pretty good imo, even though it's not a party or organization.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child)

    From a Belarussian person, Lukashenko's administration has been a disaster for the people of Belarus.

    His only saving grace is preventing Belarus from becoming a US vassal state like Ukraine or Poland. Other then that I'm very certain that a chimpanzee could run Belarus better then Lukashenko.

    He's basically a if you tried to copy Kim Ill Sung and horrifically failed and copied the inverse of all of Kim’s traits. Lukashenko is extremely reactionary, capitalist, and just a terrible leader.

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