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Mills drops out of Maine Senate race, setting up Platner to face Collins (www.politico.com)
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[–] 33 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Janet Mills suspended her campaign for Senate on Thursday, as her progressive challenger, oyster farmer Graham Platner, continued to lead in the polls and in fundraising.

It’s a shocking fall off for the incumbent governor

Lol brutal! The current governor and dnc prefered candidate dying in the polls and fundraising (!) to a progressive oyster farmer.

The democratic party is such a stalwart architect of their own failures. I just wish they werent taking the nation down with them.

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  • [–] [S] 16 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    This was the same party that told you Biden had to be the nominee, because they were the incumbent.

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  • [–] -4 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Number of times a party switched candidate after one term and stayed in office: 0

    Number of failures: 4

    That's what they told you.

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  • [–] [S] 9 points 3 months ago* (1 child)

    Are you genuinely trying to argue that the party should have stuck with Biden, who as polling as bad as Trump, back in 2023/24?

    You might consider waiting for the shitlib mind-control chip software update to come out before engaging too deeply on this.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    You'll find I said they told you that switching horses has been, historically, suicide.

    You'll find I didn't endorse a candidate who was also better than trump.

    You may want to look up what binary choice means. It forms a key part of why Trump didn't need to happen but people who can't fucking do basic math made it happen.

    Or just read what people write without replying to whatever the hell words you put in our mouths.

    But, you be you.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    "progressive" platform

    We still do not know if hes a truly reformed nazi or going to be the next Fetterman.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Two points:

    First, he was 'outed' by Maine Wire (a far-right news site; same story got picked up by the Daily Caller) as working with the Socialist Rifle Association some time after the pandemic to train people in gun safety and marksmanship. The SRA is very explicitly anti-fascist, and radically inclusive; they are pro-LGBTQ+, pro-feminism, etc. If he had genuine Nazi leanings, I highly doubt that he'd be helping the SRA in any way. That's not dispositive, but it's a pretty solid indicator that, at the very least he believes that 2A rights are for everyone, and not just people like him.

    Second, you are correct that we don't know for sure that he is who he says he is. I know people through the Liberal Gun Club that knew him growing up, and say "he's the real deal", but that's not proof. On the other hand, we know exactly who Susan Collins is. We also know exactly who Janet Mills is. And Mills is a politics-as-usual Democrat. She's fine, really, she's very acceptable as a governor. She was Chuck Schumer's personal pick for the next Maine senator (which, IMO, should be a huge fucking red flag right there; no one in a contested primary that's endorsed by Schumer or Jeffries should be selected as a nominee). She simply is not up to the task of being a senator, not at this time in history. Biden was politics as usual, and the politics as usual is exactly what got us Trump 2.0.

    So, is (was, now that Mills is out) Platner a gamble? Yes. But he's a gamble where the two choices that are known are both not acceptable.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    I appreciate context on that first part, and Ive always believed his story on his tattoo, being a "it was a tattoo shop pick and i was military. It looked cool." I didnt know it was a nazi tattoo either.

    On his race, may e i havent been clear but id pick this guy every time. I wish he didnt have his baggage but ill take what i can get

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    He was def. my choice over Mills. There was a guy named Tucker that was also running, he seemed good, no baggage I know of, but he didn't seem to get any traction.

    I only knew it was specifically a Nazi symbol because of Death In June. Back when I lived in Chicago, the were doing a show in the city, and a number of people I knew were excited to see them. A lot of other people I knew were trying to tell those people that DIG was explicitly pro-fascist. I asked why they said that, and oof... Apparently DIG uses the totenkopf in cover art, AND collaborated for a long time with Boyd Rice, who is very well known for his strong fascist stances. That was, I dunno, something like 2010? I'd definitely been interested in Nazi shit, reading a lot about WWII, but the totenkopf in particular wasn't something that I'd recognized as being explicitly a Nazi symbol. So, yeah, his story seems plausible to me. I know a lot of people said that the cover-up was Fenris, and therefore he was using Norse imagery which is ALSO fascist, but I found an interview with the tattoo artist, and she said she was using Celtic imagery. Soooooo...

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 child)

    The democratic party is such a stalwart architect of their own failures. I just wish they werent taking the nation down with them.

    Good news! The party destroying the country is not the Democrats. I can tell because the other one has control of everything and the Democrats have control of nothing, and it's being taken down really fast.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Dems deserve their fair share of the blame for enabling the ongoing authoritarian coup and deliberately undermining people trying to fight against it.

    The fascist elites who seized control of the nation need the republicans to carry out their will and they need the dems to sabotage the people's attempts to fight back.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    @Hegar @TropicalDingdong @corsicanguppy

    The Democrats impeached this fascist TWICE, the American people elected him TWICE, don't blame the Democrats for the stupidity of the American people.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Impeachment is a meaningless bureaucratic process with no impact at all - the appearance of action without any effect. Perfect for the dems.

    30% of US adults voted for trump in '24. In a democracy that would be a generational level defeat, not full control of congress and the executive. We just do not live any a democracy and trump does not represent the wishes of the US electorate.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    @Hegar @TropicalDingdong @corsicanguppy

    77 million crayon eaters voted for this guy and another 90 million stayed home because politics doesn't affect them. Don't kid yourself. Trump perfectly represents Republicans and "moderates/independents."

    Impeachments are absolutely not meaningless, but that you think they are isn't surprising. The Democrats aren't the problem in this country and the sooner the people figure that out the sooner we can move forward.

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    • [–] 17 points 3 months ago

    Fuck Chuck. Who looks at him and listens to him speak and thinks "yeah this is our leader"

    The least charismatic person possible and then Democrats are shocked they don't have good PR. Put out someone people actually fucking like man

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    [–] 11 points 3 months ago*

    Collins is probably "seriously concerned", which means she won't do shit and Platner wins.

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    [–] -4 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Weirdest issue to be YIMBY on.

    If you want to live out of touch with the real world then run as a Republican.

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Maybe you can unpack that, because I read this and it sounds like you are responding to the wrong thread.

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  • [–] -3 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Guess you don't know anything about this candidate.

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  • [–] [S] 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    I know, probably, far more than you do about Graham. I've met them. I've been on several zoom calls with them and they've answered my questions directly. One of the org's I volunteered with was one of the first to endorse him.

    So just, maybe try to explain your utterly incoherent statement, because other wise it looks like you replied to the wrong post.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Oh, hey, a Mainer? Where you at? I'm in the county.

    I've only managed to catch one town hall, and it was back in the fall. He was really good, told people to stop heckling the MAGA that stormed out in a huff; just seemed like a very decent, genuine guy. I hope the person we have seen is who he really is, but I also understand people being really gun-shy after Fetterman. I mean, I've got reservations, but I was absolutely going to vote for him in the primary over Mills.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 3 months ago

    No not a Mainer, but a political org I've been a volunteer with for almost a decade has deep ties in Maine, and we endorsed early on. One of our main organizers/ founders is based out of Maine (Perry O'brian), and we've also got connections with one of the groups that recruited Graham, so he was on our radar very early on.

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    • [+] -6 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Fetterman heel-turn in 3 ... 2 ....

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