*afghanistan but different breed of religion

Well in Gilead, wouldn’t a woman need permission to have sex?

The BSA is a multi-religion organization. The only requirement is that you believe in a higher power, and even that's not a big deal if you don't go off about being atheist all the time.

In my experience, AA is very open about the “higher power” thing and every meeting I have ever been to has also emphasized the flexibility and variety of what that even means to a person. But I would argue there’s absolutely a reason why it’s said that you need to hit your personal rock bottom first. Recovery is a wild experience and you do only reach it when you are so out of ideas as to how to make your own bullshit work anymore. I’m sober today although not through attending AA. But - in retrospect - the whole thing does make logical sense to me and my process looked a lot like the progression of the 12 steps. While I still have criticisms and skepticisms of AA, I wouldn’t consider it to be anywhere in the vicinity of anti-abortion “pregnancy centre” type deceptions.

The same is true here. The point is that they do not provide any medical care.

Ah, but they don't actually provide any medical services. They just lie and say that they do.

Wish I lived there

If all they do is counseling and give advice, does that count?

Mostly Planned Parenthood. There are a few other places, but they have less to spend on advertising.

I’ve thought about calling up a few as a trans man to see how they’d respond. The reaction would probably help identify how legitimate they were.

By definition, no. Legitimate women's healthcare providers don't call themselves "crisis pregnancy centers." Instead, they use other labels, ranging from "family planning" to "abortion clinic."

I offer that in my house, results not guaranteed but free admission

Um. More sex?

Religious hospitals in the US have certainly historically had problems reproductive health care. But they by and large exist to provide medical services. I imagine far less than 1% of a typical “St Such and Such’s” daily operations are telling women than abortion will cause them to have breast cancer.

Ectopic pregnancy is also one of those things that was until recently understood to be “yeah that doesn’t count as pregnancy and you shouldn’t die because of it” as an objective fact. I know a hardline pro lifer who had an abortion for because it’s not viable and you die.

These are things ran by small, local, powerful churches. These fucked ideologies are the type that are preached by the pastors some of the highest up in the nation - the congregations and preachers that states like Texas Oklahoma and Arkansas exist around.

It’s a warped death cult that wants more soldiers in its war against the world, which it calls Satan. Fundie evangelicals hate sex, music, dancing, art, and most pop culture, to the point where they need to publicly acknowledge they are Christian (TM) every 20 minutes.

They make their own history textbooks, tv shows, etc, etc, which is justified under the idea of being not worldly, but all of it is bad and only exists to reinforce specific messages to them. all of it is obnoxiously polemical in a way the gamergate crowd always pretended the Last of Us Two was.

But to practically answer your question - services that solely provide pregnancy counseling that don’t explicitly offer abortion as an option are bad. Abortion is a standard part of reproductive healthcare, and if you are going to someone specializing in reproductive healthcare they should be frank with you about it.

The “how are the motives of the people running these facilities different” part - St Such And Such’s wants to keep you alive by and large as its primary and professional goal. These crisis pregnancy centers exist to talk people out of abortion, first and foremost.